Yeah in need of an edit since I have gay members of my family that I love so:
Whistling Pete
Pete The Blowhard
Pete He’s Always Got Your Back Unless Your Black
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Slimy Willie Pete (actually a Midwest term for a dill pickle)
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And don’t attack me these came from comedians that won’t appear on college campuses anymore so they don’t trigger anyone. I’m just the messenger.
the anti Orange.
just didn't and will never work.
which is saying something with the presence of Warren.
I also love how he gets a pass on his moralizing about who constitute "real Christians" and who do not.
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What is inauthentic about him?
How is his moralizing any different than those who say he’s not a Christian because he’s gay?
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- his "man of the people" routine. My understanding is that Papa Buttigieg kept him away from all the local, unwashed proles. I'll bet there are some South Bend locals on this site who can verify this.
- similarly, the employment of this routine as he grovels at the feet of plutocrats and oligarchs.
- his military service to counteract customary attacks on leftist candidates. Like just about everything about him, I have little doubt that this was the motivation, particularly given Pappy's views. Pete is basically a modern Red Diaper Baby.
- the pathetic pandering to black voters. Unsurprisingly, they aren't buying it, because it isn't authentic. The idiots put out a campaign material with black people on the cover. Only problem? They're Kenyan. His campaign lists all the black pols and significant figures who support him, even though most did not endorse him. Some came out and declared it unseemly for him to do this.
- parroting the woke/SJW dogma on the campaign trail even though it's patently obvious he doesn't believe it.
- his nauseating condemnations of Christians and piety. It's like having to listen to a philandering alcoholic lecture you on your moral failings. I think he's about as Christian as Trump is.
Other than that, he's a (pardon the pun) straight-shooter.
With regards to your last sentence, that was precisely my point about his moralizing. Our blessed commentators and activists have no problems decrying fundamentalist Christians lecturing the rest of us about our failings, but they have no criticism whatsoever about St. Pete doing it.
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If the fact that he wasn’t shooting pool at the local parlors growing up as the son of two professors makes him inauthentic, all of the candidates are inauthentic. How does he grovel to plutocrats and oligarchs?
He served when he didn’t have to unlike our current authentic patriot in the WH. Most “lefties” couldn’t care less if they didn’t serve. Gives them movt cred.
He has to pander to the black vote as a D like the authentic orange man panders to his white working class pals that he cares sooooo much about.
His sjw beliefs seem to be who he is. As a member of a group traditionally persecuted, seems natural to me.
He gives the fundamentalists back their own shit. Nothing inauthentic about that.
Yes, the "Mayor Pete" moniker is an attempt to make himself a man of the people, and, yes, his efforts to ingratiate himself to black folks is also part of this effort. He often speaks about the working class environment of South Bend and the Midwest.
You're putting your own spin on my comment about he and his dad and the locals. What I'm describing is a very demeaning, condescending view of the locals as stupid bumpkins. Think of Chris, but with a better command of the English language and a far better dresser.
I'm not denying he served and that service in general is commendable. What I'm offering is my opinion that everything this guy has done from a long time ago has been calculated to arrive at this day in his political career. If you want to get ahead as a Democrat, not only in Indiana, but nationally in a presidential election, Ditto with his self-professed Christianity. It comes in handy, particularly with swing voters in places where Democrats are not sure victors. Do you buy it? I have the same reaction to his remarks about his Christianity that I do to Trump's. It seems fake. It seems like contrivance so that he can simultaneously insulate himself from some criticism and also use it as a weapon. Think about normal people you know who are genuinely Christian. Do any of them behave like Pete does?
You can say that all the Dems have to pander to blacks, but you will notice that voters buy Biden on this issue, while Pete continues to flop miserably. That's because his efforts are so transparently fake and so clumsy that black folks don;t buy it and never will. Do you think Biden feels more comfortable around black folks than Pete?
Up until the presidential campaign, Pete has not sounded those SJW notes like many other Dems. In fact, most of those types seem to dislike Pete and some consider him unrepresentative of the LGBT norm and definitely the ideal.
If you think it's helpful at uniting people to engage in the same moralism as some fundamentalists, I would argue you need to think harder about it.
I have no idea how you're unaware of Pete's groveling at the feet of biollionaires. In several ways, he's the perfect pawn for these folks. I think this guy will do whatever those folks want him to do. Like him or not, Bernie will not do that. Remember how Mitt said a big reason he would vote for conviction was that he would have to look his kids and grandkids in the eye? I believe him. Pete will never be encumbered in that way. The family safeguards individuals against any number of things. This is why totalitarian governments have often tried to dissolve the family unit. Among other things, the family makes it more difficult for to control you, in part on account of the reason Mitt cited. When you have someone who doesn't believe he must answer to God and doesn't have progeny he will have to face, that person is that much easier to control.
He presents as the one of the least “man of the people” candidates I’ve ever seen. Comes across as the smarter than you, nerdy guy who was teacher’s pet. Hardly cultivates a prole appearance or demeanor. I’ve never seen any evidence that he puts down the proles though, or speaks of them as deplorables, or anything like that. If you have any, please share.
The military service motive criticism is particularly without basis. What if any facts do you have to support an opinion that he did it for political reasons? I have seen zero offered. I do know that place was very unsafe for any military even in a support role at that time. One of our scout leaders at the time got deployed there as a naval reserve supply officer. Came back in a box from one of the General’s IED’s. About as authentic as it gets. So even if there was such motive, which hasn’t been shown, he has earned respect by putting himself on the line.
He panders no more to blacks than any other D candidate. Haven’t heard him speak with the accent like Hills or Barry yet though.
I wouldn’t expect him as the mayor of SB to be talking frequently about SJ issues. His job is to manage the City and it’s problems. It’s a very nuts and bolts job in a city of that size. He clearly though has the authentic bona fides as a gay man to speak authentically to these issues.
You also cite zero facts to support a opinion that he “grovels” before the wealthy. Give me an instance, not an assertion. I doubt you can.
His brand of Christianity may be divisive to the fundamentalists, but it is as authentic to him as theirs is to them. Or are you saying he’s faking that as well for political reasons?
I’m also trying to understand your last paragraph. Are you saying that procreating makes politicians more honest as they have to answer to their kids? Perhaps a very few, but if you look at the vast majority of the creatures currently populating DC politics it makes zero difference. Plus, you do know that gay couples can adopt or have a surrogate bear their child?
brood to Wallingford CT and have them groomed for Ivy League schools being prepared for a life in politics, big business, to become attorney's, MD's
Ambassador's and so on. How many of those parents ever thought to tell those children the Whitehouse is your aim and goal?
I doubt very much Buttigieg said one day as a gay teen in public school, I'm gonna run for election of Mayor of South Bend Indiana so I can parlay that into a run for the Whitehouse.
He is from the Midwest, he did serve in the military he was a Rhodes Scholar, he matriculated at Harvard College and is a religious man. In your mind, why is it he cannot talk about these
things - everyone else talks about their resume.
"unrepresentative of the LGBT"? WTF does that mean? That's an insane statement.
By the way, he's a politician at this point in his career, one without means, he better be looking for donors and the bigger the bucks the better. He's miles behind all the senators and billionaires
running for the D nomination.
("If you think it's helpful at uniting people to engage in the same moralism as some fundamentalists, I would argue you need to think harder about it") What proof can you provide to back up such
an argument?
You've got a real bug up your arse.
Except with accomplishments? Just wondering.
condemnation that carries some sort of weight all the other friends of Dorothy on here can get behind and support - or most of all, rePete.
It makes him feel as though he's the head cheerleader for Donnie Douchebag.
And, no offense, but when one of the regulars here mentioned notable life events in other regulars that have occurred over the years and one of the examples was an unnamed board regular who left a marriage because he "discovered he was gay," the first board character I suspected was you.
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Whole one of us reads the other's posts religiously, the other does not. I think I've read manybe two of your TDS posts over these last couple years. I see the subject line, smirk, and move on.
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I'd hate to see what that makes of your relationship here with Donnie.
You seem to particularly disIike Pete. At least that’s how it comes across to me.
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Kinda depends on what happens next.
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experience ever, doesn't read, incurious and stupid.
And your issue with Buttigieg is, he's only been a mayor. The mayor of a town we here all know and love.
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they'd be condemned for it.
He's like a villain in a Batman comic - hard to believe yet you can't take your eyes off him as he wrecks the entire train yard.
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someday you might actually post something funny or even clever. My bet is you will never be either.
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Which country is that, Russia, Turkey, N.Korea? And this means you're on the right side of history?
You have some fucked up views.
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You’re neither.
Can’t you pollute the board of some other team?
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