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Which translates to over 300,000 today. We barely did anything different back then. Almost like, "let the chips fall where they may."

At some point, aren't we going to have to do that ourselves?

Most models are saying with the lockdown we will hit 100-200K.

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I assume you aren't suggesting today. Do you have a set of parameters in mind that signal when it's time?

seasonal flu if we stick with social distancing. How many hundreds thousands more are acceptable to you so you can give golf lessons? This isn’t the 1958 flu, idjit. It’s going to kill along those lines even if we keep doing what we are doing. The 58 death toll was without social distancing. This will kill far more if we open up prematurely. Even Trump knows this which is why the SD has been extended 30 days.

I think all of you assholes that suggest this should have to volunteer a member of your family to die.

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For you I mean in the head. Because you’ve lost your marbles.

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Or that we have no idea of the death figures?

It’s being talked about constantly from the top on down.

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to tell him what to do or how to think.

Many of us did not vote for Trump.

It was painfully obvious he lacked the wherewithal to manage or appreciate such threats.

This is the economic price we must now all suffer.

But, things will be looking up by 2021.

Per multiverse theory, there's an infinite number of universes where Hills is also fucking this up.

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what are some brutal choices.

If this was a typical "choice" question we would be assessing the benefits and costs on both sides of the ledger... or even with multiple choices we would assess the decision making criteria (Pugh matrix for the nerds out there) for each choice and determine the best option.

But the hyperbole (both sides) seems to keep people away from the discussion.

Lock down the country ..... Clear benefit is saving lives - but we need to have a view of how many? for how long (are we only saving the old and infirm?) and ensure that we are measuring what portion of those would be addressed by the existing medical system or would not survive anyway (people are dying from this virus and we are unable to save them with the current treatments)

..... and I am not sure that the costs are being well defined other than vague unemployment numbers. I don't know the answer, but the societal costs must be massive. As you note, as closed businesses... recession/ bailouts/ expanded gov't/ joblessness/ suicide/ drug abuse (all the ills that we have been associating with a "non-livable" wage)

I am trying to understand the balance here and it scares me. And I part of a small business.... we already expected to be off ~20% this year and that was before the end of April date. This is about to get really hard for us... meeting this morning to discuss staffing and salary adjustments (or more clearly, who goes and who gets less.) And at the same time, a neighbor is recovering from Covid and a parent on my wife's college room mate just died from the virus. I expect we are seeing both sides of this and that may also impact our view.

In any event, be safe and let's hope the best and brightest are defining our path.

Precisely. In the current atmosphere, any discussion of how much "cure" is too much will be looked down upon by many. But it is a very necessary conversaton.

potentially lethal manifestation of our silent civil war.

They will make his job impossible. Above recovery, they value hurting Trump. They are best represented by the msm and their behavior on their shows and at the press conferences. They are full of hatred, and we will be doing this without their help. The best we can hope for is that their chosen surrogate agrees with Trump. Of course, like with the relief bill, that cooperation will be held hostage for a price being paid to their political agenda.

The poster asks a legitimate question about the difficult balance between lives and the economy and you go off on a tangential partisan diatribe.

Seek medical help. Immediately. Seriously.

I always thought it was a bit of a comedy act for him , compared to Cole (and now Tampa) who seemed singularly crazy.

Baron seems to have gone full MAGA. And as RDJ once paraphrased “never go full MAGA.”

through cooperation, and that is clearly not coming. The behavior of the msm at the press conference made that clear. The unwillingness of the radical left wing posters here also makes that clear - they would watch us fail before accepting Trump leadership and decisions(which they need to do for this).

Your over dramatic "get help" attack is merely a repackaging of what we have been telling you people with TDS hatred for years - get help. But in liberal fashion, you simply accuse others of that which you yourself are in need of receiving.

I am not upset by the Left's behavior in this crisis because I expected it. It must be a little bothersome to those having themselves pointed out. I'm sure it didn't occur to some of them (which is why I bothered posting it in the first place - there might be some out there who will do a little self- reflection.

their bills. The trickle down affect for tax revenues, banks, and businesses will be catastrophic. We have to get parts of the economy up and running soon. It should be scalable but will give people a sense that normality is beginning to return.

We are incredible creative and are fortunate to live in a society that fosters human freedom. People are already creating the new economy.

My Dad said the war cost him almost 4 years of his life and a scholly to Lafeyette College.

He said he was one lucky SOB given what became of some of his buddies. Came back, went to school on the GI Bill and did just fine.

Today, we just shit our pants if adversity comes up.

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