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Results available by mid July.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:09 pm on May 21, 2020
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Right now, there is a split in the medical community world wide on hydroxychloroquine's efficacy in treating/preventin COVID.
What is known is that at present, we lack prospective randomized study trials. Thus, for now, it is a decision that is based on a discussion with a doctor and informed consent with experimental treatment
On the upside:
An innoccuous drug on the order of acetaminophen - I know the msm stories of arrhythmia being fed to their viewers, but as i have outlined before, those deaths all occurred at doses about twice the dosage now recommended.
Tylenol causes deaths too, but nobody fearfully deliberates the use of it for a non life threatening pain, and certainly the government doesn't ban its' use.
Uber cheap and well known
Like any other off label usage, of a drug for another condition it presents options when standard, well studied options are not available.

On the downside:
Efficacy not proven.

I know how political this has become, but I really am eager to see the results of this particular study.


Link: https://www.dicardiology.com/article/first-large-scale-us-study-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19-prophylaxis-begins-detroit

Replies to: Results available by mid July.


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Witch Doctor Alert!

Author: conorlarkin (21052 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:03 pm on May 21, 2020
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Says the ambulance chaser. You clearly don’t want the chance a study may work against your political

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:52 am on May 22, 2020
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goal. But I still await good study results to know for sure, either way.

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Trump is peddling a drug that has not been approved as safe and effective. Fact.

Author: conorlarkin (21052 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:46 am on May 22, 2020
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He looked foolish and dishonest.

Many medical experts have cautioned that the drug may be harmful and deadly.

Yet, your political loyalty seeks to always rescue Trump. Hence, your post.


Link: How many more American deaths will Trump cause?

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Actually, he is following the advice of his doctor and that should be the end of the story.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:54 am on May 22, 2020
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It’s called “off label use”. And every doctor has practiced it. I could list many examples, yet you wouldn’t listen anyways.

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No there isn’t a split in the world on the use of Hydroxychloroquine

Author: jimbasil (52683 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:44 pm on May 21, 2020
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for COVID19 - It doesn’t work as either a preventative medicine or a cure.

You keep telling us you’re a man in the medical field but you post like an unarmed one-arm bandit from a Michigan militia.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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So, if there isn't a debate, why are they doing the study? Lol. Ned and LeHigh can vouch for my

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:53 pm on May 21, 2020
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background - and I believe Chris too. Many doctors continue to prescribe this - including the WH doctor who I can assure you is top shelf (not just from the standpoint of achieving that postion, but also from the fact that Trump has the means to pick the best as well...though I was busy).

I look forward to a large, well designed, prospective, randomized study to support either sides assertions (the nay sayers also do not have the solid evidence required to confirm their suspicions as well). At that point, we will finally take this out of your realm of politics and voodoo homemade mask wearers sitting in their cars with the windows shut, and put it back in the realm of solid medical evidence. I personally hope this finds that it is helpful to fight COVID, but I know that you are cheering against it because your goal isn't to help the US or save lives, but to get rid of Trump. Anything that pulls us through faster right now is anathema to you.


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You can both be correct, you know!

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:46 pm on May 22, 2020
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You one-armed bandit medical man!

Are you kind?
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That debate happened over a month ago. There is no split

Author: jimbasil (52683 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 7:02 pm on May 21, 2020
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on the uses for Hydroxychloroquine. Any physician who proscribes it for COVID19 is a quack and should have his license removed.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Only decided inMSM. Why would you argue-the existence of several ongoing studies proves otherwise?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:47 am on May 22, 2020
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There are no studies proving it works. That’s a fallacy.

Author: jimbasil (52683 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:42 am on May 22, 2020
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Stop with the bullshit Baron.

Just like Trump, if you think it and say it, it must be true.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Are you a medical doctor?

Author: MarkHarman (7286 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:31 pm on May 21, 2020
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Not saying your opinion necessarily isn't valid, but I'm just curious as to what your credentials are.

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You’re being serious?

Author: jimbasil (52683 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:49 pm on May 21, 2020
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I agree for once with you. It is a rather astounding question given your posting level.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:53 am on May 22, 2020
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(no message)

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Yes. I don't know what you do for a living

Author: MarkHarman (7286 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:06 pm on May 21, 2020
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Although the content of your writings are more important than your credentials. And if you are a medical professional, I recognize experts often disagree with each other.

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How about doing some reading, MH. Stop listening to charlatans.

Author: jimbasil (52683 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:55 am on May 22, 2020
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Pay attention and turn the channel away from FOX TV and right wing media. Put on NPR For once. Make logical choices instead of depending on the beer drinking buddies for answers.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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He is not, of course. Though he attended The University of CNN School of Medicine.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:45 am on May 22, 2020
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I just ordered an MD from Trump U.

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:12 am on May 22, 2020
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It came came with a free set of steak knives.

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The most fabulous steak knives ever!

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:18 am on May 22, 2020
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(no message)

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People say they love these steak knives, I will probably use them for surgeries.

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:29 am on May 22, 2020
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Who needs Lasik? I am open for business.

Thread Level: 3

Yes there is, you ignorant douche. Get off

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:08 pm on May 21, 2020
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your favorite porn site and do some research

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The way you can tell Trump is full of shit and you shouldn’t listen to him

Author: jimbasil (52683 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:52 pm on May 21, 2020
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whenever he says he knows something.

Like with you - I know you’re a dumbass because you say stupid things. Pretty darn easy, Dorothy.

There is no split about the use of Hydroxychloroquine. It’s a medicine for those who have malaria or lupus. That’s it.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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.

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:08 pm on May 21, 2020
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I guess it's a bit political.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:19 pm on May 21, 2020
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Apologies to everyone. Seemed funny at the time.

https://preview.redd.it/jcuzsqsx95051.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6480c58e594ca808cfc0895d0cd038ee4654d181

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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What color are his eyelids?

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:39 pm on May 21, 2020
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I have no idea, but I guess if my face was that color I'd spray tan too.

Thread Level: 4

That's an older pic-he has stopped spray tanning since the epidemic (unlike Joe botox)- anyways.....

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:48 pm on May 21, 2020
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...it is a silver lining imo.

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This is a problematic development.

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:59 pm on May 21, 2020
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How will we know who Frank is referring to by color?

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Lizard ‘

Author: jimbasil (52683 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:49 pm on May 21, 2020
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(no message)

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 5

Why you gotta hate on reptiles?

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:51 pm on May 21, 2020
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Hilarious.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:29 pm on May 21, 2020
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