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What is the Board's consensus opinion on what China is doing in Hong Kong? Here is video of kids

Author: Cole (16180 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 3:02 pm on May 28, 2020
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being handcuffed and led away posted by a WaPo reporter.

Link: https://twitter.com/ShibaniMahtani/status/1265534789282603008

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It's HK police's action on students' response to Pompeo's response to China's national security law

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:11 pm on May 28, 2020
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on HK which is China's response to what happened in HK last year. Pompeo's response implying Hongkong will lose its preferential trading status, is intended to pressure Hongkong's business and establishment which largely is pro-China.

HongKong now has become a pawn in US-China battleground.


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China is using this pandemic to spread their influence. They must be backed down or else. Make

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:20 pm on May 28, 2020
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them pay by taking away Honk Kong’s trade status and impose tariffs. Back attempts by India, Japan, S Korea to stand up to them. We will have the Brits with us because of Hong Kong but need the EU pussies to join us. Isolate China now before it’s too late.

Thread Level: 3

That's ridiculous. But Xi and the boys are becoming more authoritarian.

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:11 pm on May 28, 2020
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Their behavior toward their own people is increasingly horrid...not sure there is a whole helluva lot we can do about it other than object loudly and shame them.

Trump has pretty much destroyed any leverage we might have had with China, because he insisted on acting alone. We needed to coordinate with Europe, Japan, South Korea, etc...instead we pulled out of the TPP and alienated everyone. You know, like great grand strategy.

And China is not "using the pandemic." That's asinine.


Thread Level: 4

That’s not ridiculous, it is an obvious fact.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59855 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:13 pm on May 28, 2020
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Trump is the only leader, not only in U.S. but also in whole western world, who stand up to China.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:41 pm on May 28, 2020
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Please give Trump credits where the credits due. I know you don't like giving the credits to Trump because Trump did this to China not based on ideology or values, e.g. democracy, human rights...this kind of reasons that liberals and neocon like to talk about. Trump confronted to China solely based on national interest. This is where Trump got it right. You don't see Trump use the terms like communism, dictatorships, democracy...to China . In fact Trump saw the flaws and consequences of decades-long U.S. policy by internationalists and neocons that sacrifice self interest in hope that China will become democratic. Since this fight is not ideology/value based, you can't have a coalition like we fought in cold war which is about ideology, i.e. fighting aggressive spread of communism over the Europe and the rest of world and in that fight we can sacrifice some national interest to help other countries in order to have a coalition.

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Ayup. Feckin Orange simpleton.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:39 pm on May 28, 2020
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Peace in our time Neville. Name one communist country that bowed to negotiation. They only respect

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:24 pm on May 28, 2020
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power. Your naïveté is only greater than your ignorance. And how do you know about how they initiated the pandemic. Trust a communist at your own peril.

Thread Level: 3

We should have been lining up the EU and the TPP partners long ago.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:22 pm on May 28, 2020
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That means though......gasp.......you need allies.

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What allies the EU countries? They loved Obama on his apology tour

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:28 pm on May 28, 2020
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Who cares that they liked him or not. He’s also part of the problem.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:29 pm on May 28, 2020
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They and the TPP nations should have been lined up long ago.

We could have boxed them out.


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The TPP was a wet dream for Wall St and the globalists.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:32 pm on May 28, 2020
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Stupid statements like that are why we are where we are.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:33 pm on May 28, 2020
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More like pussies like you Neville. Sure talk to China they are reasonable

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:37 pm on May 28, 2020
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No, unfortunately more bombastic piece of shit idjits like you.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:40 pm on May 28, 2020
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Excuse me I’m going to carry this conversation on with my dog.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:43 pm on May 28, 2020
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Give him my condolences.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:44 pm on May 28, 2020
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I oppose tariffs. I don’t oppose lining up opposition to them sanctionswise for HK if needed.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:24 pm on May 28, 2020
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I also thought the TPP would be an excellent counterweight to them......but again....need allies and too globalist.

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Responds to Ned below.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:25 pm on May 28, 2020
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That's who they are, and our greed for cheap products leads us to ignore this, because money

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:39 pm on May 28, 2020
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Tru dat

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 4:36 pm on May 28, 2020
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Winnah, winnah, chicken dinnah!! And then the Cole’s and PB’s of the world blame it all on China.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:15 pm on May 28, 2020
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Psst......guess what guys we are the ones who made the deal with the devil for cheap consumer shit.

Like that 4HD plasma 100” inch screen dominating yer living room.


Thread Level: 4

Yes, the fact that I bought a Samsung caused China to handcuff these students today.

Author: Cole (16180 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 4:34 pm on May 28, 2020
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Sorry.

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No douche, but the fact that you were able to buy it at the price you did reflects how they have

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:36 pm on May 28, 2020
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brought costs for that stuff down. They drive that market.

Keep after yer stupid tariff shitshow. It’s a joke.


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Sure all those TV’s caused China to kill and imprison their citizens and threaten Asia.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:24 pm on May 28, 2020
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Don’t blame the CCP it’s the greedy American consumers fault.

Thread Level: 5

Ultimately it is. Our consumer greed has made them a great power. Live with it.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:27 pm on May 28, 2020
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See I don’t buy their shit when I can avoid it.

I still have a tube tv for example.


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Accepting them in the WTO with no preconditions cause their resurgence and kept their tariffs

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:30 pm on May 28, 2020
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And why did that happen? Dependence for consumer shit. It drives the whole engine yo.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:32 pm on May 28, 2020
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So you accept failure. The Orange is trying to force the consumer off the China Tit

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:36 pm on May 28, 2020
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What makes you think China would back down with their recent actions. Don’t be naive. It took 20 years of global pandering to create the China powerhouse. Threats and power is all they understand. Fight Neville?

Thread Level: 9

Yeah right. They let el jeffe save face. That’s it.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:39 pm on May 28, 2020
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Neville by the way couldn’t bring a coalition. Britain and France alone would never win. Now you add the Yanks and the Puties, different story.

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Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:40 pm on May 28, 2020
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Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:24 pm on May 28, 2020
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The buy American solution has flown the coop.

Author: iairishcheeks (27116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:23 pm on May 28, 2020
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There are whole sectors of goods that aren't made here anymore.

The solution involves incentivizing and/or coercing with penalties American Corps moving out of China to a more favorable trade partner. Some have suggested Mexico, there's also Central and South America, India and other places.


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Uhm yeah........another winnah. Remember TPP? That should have been massively incentivized.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:31 pm on May 28, 2020
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Thread Level: 6

You were never a Republican. I’m sure you opposed Reagan’s move to out spend the Soviets.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:41 pm on May 28, 2020
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I did? Shows what you know moron.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:42 pm on May 28, 2020
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You say that, but you seem to oppose any act by our government to fix that.

Author: NedoftheHill (44646 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:21 pm on May 28, 2020
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I'd say almost every member of congress and senate, both sides of the aisle, is on the take

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:37 pm on May 28, 2020
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from China at some level.

Thread Level: 6

More than a few likely are.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:47 pm on May 28, 2020
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Indeed.

Author: NedoftheHill (44646 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:40 pm on May 28, 2020
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Opinion? It's akin to the fable of The Frog and The Scorpion. They are a communist dictatorship...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33491 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:11 pm on May 28, 2020
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...it's their nature.

This could only go one way once Britain gave it back.


Thread Level: 3

and they will play the long game

Author: 86domer (667 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:14 pm on May 28, 2020
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eventually they will control Hong Kong.

And 30 minutes away in Shenzhen - they have very little clue what's is happening.


Thread Level: 4

......and they understand the western mentality.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:20 pm on May 28, 2020
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They are also ratcheting things up with India over Kashmir.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:09 pm on May 28, 2020
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Looks like they are laying down their markers on some long standing issues.

We should do something to back Taiwan strongly and also support the protesters.


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Taiwan is a great country. Would hate to lose it to the Communists.

Author: NedoftheHill (44646 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:14 pm on May 28, 2020
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And, human issues aside, that would give China control over what...95% of the printed circuit board market? 98%

Taiwan shows that politics is not culture or race. They are as Chinese as anyone in China, and yet they love freedom.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

Yep, need to draw the line somewhere. That would be worth the struggle.

Author: Frank L (64664 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:17 pm on May 28, 2020
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