This shouldn't surprise any sane person
It's also very unfortunate that it had to come to this.
From the article:
"Deaths typically lag several weeks behind infections and hospitalizations, experts note. That means that the widespread socializing that occurred when the governors of Texas, Florida, Arizona and other states began loosening restrictions in the spring is only now starting to be reflected in death rates."
Link: COVID-19 death tolls now rising in key states after weeks of decline nationwide
Replies to: This shouldn't surprise any sane person
And now cities are admitting what EVERYONE knew.
That the B.L.M. terrorists they enabled have spread the virus.
They will still blame Trump and not themselves though.
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Trump is the HMFIC. He has consistently given permission to minimize the pandemic.
Americans will pay with their lives.
Fact.
You voted for it.
You supported the protests which spread the virus you said nothing. Own it.
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There is no proof that happened.
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Compare to every other developed country per capita.
Are they all just unlucky, or painted with the same brush?
Comparatively, the United States is abysmal.
"Marines ... fasten your chin straps ... zip up your flak jackets ... spread the fuck out."
"Don't drink and drive."
"Smoking can kill you."
"Look both ways before crossing the street"
"Don't accept rides from strangers."
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Following a huge sacrifice by the entire nation in shutting down for 2-3 months, Trump's pitch has been to abandon caution and prudence, -- when we needed it most as we re-opened.
Instead of a united nation, determined to defeat COVID-19 (ala united and determined to defeat Germany and Japan), Trump has fed the politicization of the pandemic. Our spiking numbers reflect that reality.
Guess you shouldn't have cheered on the rioting.
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Levey's Florida figures are an outright lie
He claims Florida's death count has risen 60% in the past 2 1/2 weeks. But this is false. The number of daily deaths in Florida the past 2 1/2 weeks averaged 41.39. The previous 2 1/2 weeks? 34.11. Another previous 2 1/2 weeks? 34.67. So that's an increase of 21%, not 60%.
I emailed this clown about his bad math. I doubt he'll have the guts to respond.
Go Florida! To the very top!
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Link: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/florida
Strange post. Are you genuinely happy for Florida, or are you being sarcastic. Can't tell.
If you compare New York to Florida, it looks like Florida is having their very first peak, which New York already had back in March and April. Maybe you should compare Florida in 3 or 4 months to New York now, for a more fair comparison.
Also, you keep referring us to testing numbers in isolation of each regions capacity to treat cases. That seems a bit disingenuous, but I grant you, it is sometimes hard to tell what you are thinking. One gets the impression that you are seeing exciting political news in these charts, like a child looks for exciting shapes in the clouds on a sunny summer day...but it is often difficult for others to see the fantasies that you have seen.
If only Florida had a heads up about the pandemic ....
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If only the CDC had issued guidelines on safe reopening.
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Yes Mark it’s easy to follow just go to Fl virus website. The MSM seems to have a problem with that.
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And far less than the number of + cases which means the death rate is dropping which means the virus
is not as lethal as initially feared.
Yep but they would rather lead the news with new cases. It fits their narrative
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This is YOUR LEADERSHIP....PEOPLE WILL DO WHAT THEY DO. Pelosi Said that. OWN IT.
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I don't live in CA. I didn't vote for Pelosi
But don't see how the Speaker of the House has much control over what happens in FL, TX and AZ. Especially when the Senate, presidency and SCOTUS are controlled by the other party.
The president and the governors however....
Than u dont understand what POWER she has and you have ignored and or embraced what comes out of her
Mouth for the last 3 years.
U Balked by saying you did not vote for her cuz where you live....BS....You are weak for not standing behind your posts...WEAK
Especially with a dick head prez encouraging them and down playing it’s impact.
Who other than a moron, tells people to violate his own guidelines.
OWN IT.
Ahhhhhh, with that reference of the male organ, you like it in the can. Got it.
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Your hand on yer male organ? Figures.
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And there is nothing wrong with it....whatever turns you on. Ya dont need a social science degree
To know where you are CUMMING from. Good for you for feeling so free.
Knock yerself out chief.
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Correction, Senior Chief. Peace!
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Heh! Same to you.
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Apocalypse and Chaos Coming!
Tonight at 11.
It really stuns me how many young liberals are rooting this on, and wallowing in apocalypse fetishizing.
I said it's unfortunate this happened.
How is that rooting it on?
You can snark about it all you want but it didn’t have to happen.
Are we in great economic shakes due to our expedited and chaotic reopening?
Would there be a lot less sick and eventually dead folks if we would have handled it better?
Why do we have 25% of the cases and over 130K deaths?
Is our economic shape much the better for it?
Why don’t we pick responsible leadership that at least knows it’s ass from a hole in the ground?
I don't care
I do not have a lot of confidence in a vaccine, and the quicker it burns itself out the better. All Europe has done is delayed a second wave, which is going to be much worse as a result.
Also, the numbers are BS. Texas and New York, for example, count probably cases as positives, despite patients not actually testing positive. I do not believe other countries are doing this.
Now, having a mask mandate earlier on should have been done.
Why a mask mandate? Under your scenario it just delays the inevitable.
We are completely fucked with people like you in the population.
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Yeah, fuck those old and sick bastards
Grandma shouldn’t have gotten old. Her own fault. And fuck that leukemia kid.
Privately, the Left is glad that the death panels don't have to deny them healthcare anymore.
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Amazing, no wonder we have Orange. Two nations with most COVID, Brazil (Bolsonaro) and US (Orange).
Coincidence? I think not.
How many child deaths from covid?
Since February I think the number is under 20.
When we started lockdowns it was to flatten the curve. Now it has clearly become until eradication, which is not happening.
OTOH maybe the world will finally get tough on China...but I doubt it.
Actually, it is still to flatten the curve
But hospitals in TX, FL, and AZ are now nearing or at capacity.
Are they? Will be educational for the rest of the states, then.
According to the chart site conor posted above, Florida is going through what New York did 3 months ago...the first surge, not a second surge. New York is still testing at a much higher rate than Florida is. Maybe New York needs to send test kits down to Florida.
If only we had a national response that didn’t pit states against one another. Maybe the tests would
be getting to the states that need it most during spikes.
How many unnecessary old people deaths from covid?
Answer: all of them after June 1.
And huge percentage of those before then. Had we locked down one week earlier, we would have saved tens of thousands of lives.
Has the reverse occurred to you as well? Another misleading MSM negative counter to any good news.
People who were exposed to coronavirus and infected asymptomatically and recovered but weren't tested yet are not included in the death rate statistics being reported contemporaneously.. The dilution effect of this phenomenon would have on the death rate (it would lower the rate) also has a "lag time" and does not show up until far down the road when all data in large amounts can be fully coalesced, and it occurs in the opposite direction statsitically to the phenomenon that your article mentions about contemporaneous death rate reporting during first outbreak data collection.
Thus,your article selectively mentions just one side of the phenomenon that really has two sides. They mention only the side that worsens the picture.
Thus, it is intentionally or ignorantly reported news from the MSM once again, but given their past history, it is dafe to say that it is the former.
As to the hospitals being swamped, 75% of Texas admissions are due to nonCoVID build up of other medical issues which have built up on back log due to the supposed cure (shut down).
Skewed news and half truths are FAKE NEWS.
PS - Stop pretending to be smarter or "more sane" than those on the other side - it isn't true.
How about the booming hospitalizations? Just lies or anti-Trump agitprop or something?
Louisiana’s numbers are rising fast. Mostly outside of Orleans Parish, but it’s spreading.
It’s depressing beyond words.
I understand why Trump people need to deny it. But that just makes everything much worse.
Well, there is a pandemic going on. Isn't that expected?
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You misunderstand again
It IS spreading as I told you was inevitable (as was that you would blame it on Trump btw). Why on earth did you not believe me when I told you that we would all be exposed and that the only thing that we could do was flatten the curve. Somewhere between the first 2 weeks of this and now, you were suckered into thinking that a homemade mask was going to save you the exposure.
But why be depressed? the numbers indicate that this is not nearly as lethal as we thought - less so than we thought even a month ago. You are depressed because the news sources you choose to believe have been peddlig fear for political reasons as we have told you.
The virus is spreading, but the explosion of cases is also very heavily affected by the more widespread testing.
The hospital admissions are also inevitably up, but not at the rate we were worried bout, and the overflow is at this point about 75% because of the shutdown with delay of treatment of all of the other medical issues out there besides COVID which is a factor against shutdown to be considered as they try to achieve the right balance.
At this point, the death rate is dropping which is very encouraging. Also, that vast majority of deaths are exclusively in the elderly and infirm which is a very depressing fact without doubt, but it has not really extended into the general population which is something to be very grateful for.
I am not denying the virus is spreading, but you definitely have been denying the reality of what was to come.
Also, it is not worth living life in constant fear. The media needs that from you to make you accepting of the loss of freedoms needed to hurt Trump, thus they peddle their fear.
You also have to remember that the enemy who did this to us is CHINA, NOT TRUMP. That is also a function of your media manipulation. When is the last time they have ever said anything truly good about Trump - even when he shut down travel to China against their pressure?
I’m sure you are thrilled. But if you’re wrong will you apologize for this post. I doubt it.
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This isn’t an apology board.
If it were, I doubt many people would post here.
You certainly wouldn’t.
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I figured this reply was coming.
When you have nothing else, accuse everyone that accepts reality as rooting for the virus. Nevermind that this virus has done damage to our lives as well, which is why we want people to take it seriously.
Who is this "we" ? Everybody is taking it seriously. Our lives have changed dramatically. Putting
Yrself on pretty high perch aren't ?
People that are not wearing masks in crowded public spaces do not take it serious.
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You mean like Governor Cuomo of NY sitting on 33k deaths while Fl is at 4K?
Failed leadership I would think you agree.
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Russiagate? Ukrainegate?..it's just on to the next hoax
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And then there is this.....
Corn Pop is working at a 7-11 and he's going to put you all back in chains. “We hold these truths to be self-evident,” "All men and women created by — you know, you know, the thing.”
Over 130k Americans dead and you think it is a hoax?
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The virus is NOT a hoax, It is horrible, and remember that China did it to us, NOT TRUMP. No buts
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What we have now and since March is Trump's doing - with the help of people like you.
China is definitely responsible for not informing the rest of the world of the virus when it was first discovered.
To say anything different is just more deflection from responsibility.
And now, this POTUS and his Jackass VP are just pour lighter fluid on to the bonfire. And you're an asshole for supporting this.
China also allowed travel of infected to the West and said nothing as they& CDC lied about it......
...and still your hatred makes you focus on Trump.
You wanted this all to bring him down. You side with China to in your rage of hatred.
And that is what was meant by China is responsible for not telling the truth.
Trump and his admin are responsible for the rest.
Nearly 3 million Americans die a year. Who are you you going to blame for that? Never mind, I know
that answer
Ah, the everyone dies eventually argument
Per that logic, we should immediately repeal all rules and laws related to safety and/or the prevention of death.
Requiring training for airline pilots, not needed.
Drunk driving, fine.
Murder, fine.
After all, we all gotta go sometime, right?
Keep hoping for death and stay the fuck out of Fl. Thank you. God bless you. Whatever.
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Actually, I'm hoping we get our shit together so there will be less death.
...and I won't come to FL if you don't come to CO. Deal?
