There is a lot of chatter of upcoming events, why not call it off?
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Before I say what I would do, let me know what specific problem you want addressed. I certainly wouldn't call for more "uprisings" like they did when people were being killed by Antifa/BLM. Heck, even Kamala Harris said the protestors should not let up.
It is interesting though, to think what might have happened this past year, how many of the 30 lives taken might have been saved, if Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. all shut down the communications of Antifa and BLM. Perhaps we need to look into that, and hold those companies responsible.
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I would be happy to revisit last summer later. In the face of current events and you were in charge would you call them to stand down?
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Knowing what just occurred, the volatility of the situation, would you prevail upon your followers, "the Patriots" to act peacefully.
I would ask them to stop, because I'm not a Dem, I guess. But, that is why the Left is winning; it never stops.
Do you think it is more likely, or less likely, that this nation will have a revolution if the concerns of the Right are substantially suppressed?
It might be the correct long term decision to allow these protests to occur now. I don't know. But then, I don't know what is being planned.
Who from the right other than the Orange riot instigator has been banned from social media?
The election was not stolen, that’s complete nonsense.
What other suppression are you alleging?
What leader from the left instigated or suggested that Antifa and BLM should engage in violence?
Romney is right. You do the “Patriots” no service by encouraging their delusions. Tell them the truth. They lost, like the left lost in 2016. If they want to resist or despise Biden fine, but that BS they pulled last week won’t be tolerated.
At this moment we have just witnessed a pretty violent attack on our system. So in the here and now you as president would keep your mouth shut, ignore the violence, and ignore the possibility of more of it. You wouldn't give a live speech to the country asking for a peaceful transition?
And here is the point: It only happened because of what they perceive to be the reality.
You and I can debate the reality in an academic discussion...but what matters for the nation is what is perceived by those who are willing to get off of their couch and go do something.
I learned something last week: There are a lot of people who are upset like me...who perceive that the Left has stolen an election (or, at least tried to...it is not proven that they succeeded...it may be like the OJ case, where a guilty guy was being framed). BUT, those people have a fuse which is much, much shorter than mine. I was comfortably sitting on my couch watching the news of the Capitol Building...watching people who have the same concerns as I do, go hogwild regarding those concerns. At no time was I motivated to get out of my chair and do anything by the feeling that the Dems had stolen this election. So, the good news for me is that there are other people who are willing to act well before things get so bad that the authorities start putting families on my street in cages like Conor is looking forward to doing.
By the way, I answered your question. Perhaps I added it after you saw my initial post. I would encourage peaceful discourse, so I would definitely handle it in a better way than the Demcrats handled things last year with Antifa/BLM.
targeting black folks for excessive and deadly force? They believe that every bit as much as the “Patriots” believe their malarkey.
We need to tell people the truth and stop lying to them for political gain.
Let's assume both sides perceptions are actually misperceptions. That doesn't make them any less dangerous politically. In fact, that may make them more dangerous. So, they must be addressed...and not by surrendering to them, or doubling down on suppressing them, both of which would be counterproductive to a healthy society.
to use deadly force. Neither of those canards is true.
See how this works Frank? There isn't an Objective Record Keeper of Reality. Reality must be observed. And reality cannot be observed by everyone. That is why we have disagreements, and discourse to make political decisions and select our leaders. But, when one side assumes it is 100% correct (and they likely are not), and the other side assumes they are 100% correct (and they likely are not), bad things start to happen. We should have a discussion to discern truth, not impose "truth" on others. You seem to be opting for an Orwellian approach; I would be happy if both sides were allowed to discuss their views with each other.
Of course cops don't systemically target blacks. But if you say that out loud, you are shouted down as racist denier of truth. We need to stop doing that. Same thing in the fraud discussion.
It’s called rational thinking and discernment. I know there was no election changing fraud because there is no hard evidence of it. There would be if it were of that scale. I know that police officers do not systemically target people as a group due to their skin color. I know that because I have handled hundreds of excessive force and shooting cases. It’s not that hard unless there is a political motive to skew that truth into something that isn’t true.
A. You believe the election was stolen.
B. You were comfortable watching the Capitol Being Attacked (by others)
C. You are happy people that people will react again in the same fashion?
I doubt your really believe authorities will "start putting families on my street in cages..." As time has gone by on here you seem to be more and more angry and believe more and more unproven allegations. Sorry to hear that too.
You said: "A. You believe the election was stolen." I think the Left tried to steal the election in several key states. I don't know if they did or not, because they might have won anyway. But, let me add: I don't follow all the information in that regard. I am casually informed on this since the election (I kind of tuned out for awhile after the election, changing my radio stations from talk to music, watching netflix instead of Foxnews, etc.), so you haven't heard me do too much arguing about it here. Most of my "arguing" was merely to make the point that it is wrong to say there is "no evidence" of fraud. There is evidence. The only question is what does it prove.
You said: "B. You were comfortable watching the Capitol Being Attacked (by others)"
Yes, I was comfortable, because I was sitting on my couch. Literally, that is what I meant; I was not cold, and exerting myself climbing a wall, risking my future. I was just trying to say that I was not so outraged by my views regarding A above, that I was willing to do anything like what they did. I was not willing to do that. My life remained comfortable...on my couch.
And, since I think that the nation is going down the tubes anyway, all the attack did was speed up the timeline a little. It is what it is. Many people suddenly realized last week that we could lose everything. I faced that realization years ago. So, I didn't experience the shock that you all did in coming to my level of awareness of the risk we've been running as a society by playing with fire in our daily politics.
You said: "C. You are happy people that people will react again in the same fashion?"
No. I personally think the Left has won, and it is just a matter of time before things go off the rails leading those who are more fervently conservative than I to fight back. But, I don't want that fight to occur. I won't be happy when it does. Not at all. That would suck.
I suppose it is possible that the Left will take away enough of our rights that even a lazy ass like me might be motivated to do something more than just vote in an election in which I doubt my vote will be counted. But, given the events of last week, I definitely know that others will be motivated to take action far earlier than I would be. It turns out, I'm far more tolerant of tyranny by the Left.
You said, "I doubt your really believe authorities will "start putting families on my street in cages..."
And, I doubt anyone on the Left really thought Trump was a despot, or that his election was like 1930's Germany, or that people would be put in train cars, or that his election was illegitimate because the Russians stole the election for him...right? And yet, the Left said all of that, which is interesting.
You said, "As time has gone by on here you seem to be more and more angry and believe more and more unproven allegations. Sorry to hear that too.
But, I'm not more angry. You mistake facing reality openly with anger. The five steps of dealing with tragedy are Denial--Anger--Bargaining--Depression--Acceptance. I am in the Depression/Acceptance stages, not the Anger stage. The people who stormed the Capitol Building are in the Anger stage. Most here in the Open are still in Denial...which is why the event was so shocking to them. But any student of history knows that the US is not a magical entity, and know that it is subject to the normal laws of politics and that it won't last forever. Those in shock have not yet placed the event in the proper context of history.
I'm not angry. I just disappointed. There is a big difference.
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There is no way you are an ND grad.
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for years the kindling has been building up. The left is hell bent on throwing a match on the pile. Gonna be a bumpy four years!
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What EXACT quote has all your undies in a bind? Why aren't the lefties and RINOS quoting the exact words that caused "a mostly peaceful protest"? Twitter has a problem with the word patriot. What scares you all?
Let's say Trump and his speech is not germane to the riot in the Capitol. Knowing that Trump could persuade his followers to act peacefully wouldn't it be a presidential moment to send a message encouraging peaceful protests?
"I know that everyone will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard". He also posted on Twitter at least three times asking for the support of law enforcement and asking everyone to "stay peaceful". That is a hell of a lot more than any Dem said about the riots/looting/violence last summer.
It would be good for him.
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has played it over and over.
You're inventing a narrative that's false and look at those who agree with you. How exciting for you. And still you're wrong.
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