Biden got his ass kicked by a dummy.
Man, Obama sure knows how to pick 'em huh? His veep lost a debate to a retard.
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Please, Palin would have a hard time getting a position in Bidens staff
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WRONG!!!!
He'd let her sit on his staff in a heartbeat. Or take any position on his staff that she wanted to take.
I think you were watching the x-rated bdsm version, which was probably better. Even Fox didn't have
anything positive to say one way or the other.
Bullshit. Fox had Palin winning the debate
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Fox had a room of a dozen people saying Palin did well and might have won.
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No! Fox had the Republican winning it?! I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you....
Just kidding. In all seriousness, they leaned Obama after the last debate, so they're not monolithic. However, most of the other polls are leaning Biden around 50-35-15, Biden-Palin-Undecided, give or take a few.
Again, like the last one, no knockouts, and in a Dem year, that's a win for Obama.
Sorry Johnny, I was pulling for ya in 2000. You were the man America needed back then, but not now. Fucked not once, but twice by Bush. Poor guy.
As someone with no skin in this game, I'll say this...
I thought Palin held her own in the economic portion of the debate, but got owned in Foreign Policy (not surprisingly). As someone else said earlier, she did nothing to discourage her base with her folksy platitudes and she didn't have that "deer in the headlights" moment so many expected. In that regard I guess she succeeded.
On specifics though, regardless of whether you agree with the Obama/Biden platform, I thought Biden did a much better job answering the questions asked, articulating the Democratic position and laying out the difference between the two tickets. He certainly came across as more knowledgeable on pretty much every single issue.
Palin's performance will have reassured the Republican base and it can now let out a collective sigh of relief. Biden's performance will do the same for the Democrats. Neither side should be disappointed with its candidate's performance tonight.
Your take is my take
Although I will add that the "folksy platitudes" got old at about the 10-minute mark and the remaining 80 minutes were like a bad episode of The Andy Griffith Show.
Re: Your take is my take
And Biden confirmed he's a condescending douchebag just like we all thought.....
It bothered me too.
But there are so many people out there that will sit back after the debate and say, "See. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout. A politician talking common sense".
Of course, there's no meat to the message but that's irrelevant. Elections are about electability, not ability.
"There's no meat to the message."
You just perfectly captured Obama's last 18 months on the campaign trail. Finally! One of you liberal jackasses is starting to see the light.
I've paid so little attention to your election, you might be right that I'm right about the message.
Although, that you refer to me as a liberal means you haven't been reading my posts, which disappoints me. Nobody on this board (save maybe Hank Scorpio and fredyo) have argued more strenuously for fiscal restraint than me. Hardly the stuff of a liberal platform.
Who are you again?
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Lloyd Christmas.
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Do me a favor and figure out the exact date of Inauguration Day + 100 ....
so I can hold an "I told you so" party.
You aren't as dumb as MAS made you out to be.
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Am I dumberer?
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I love Canadians.
There, I said it. You're better and smarter than us and you and I know it. Just don't be smug about it, okay?
Do you guys have an entry on your ballots for "None of the Above?" If so, I'm willing to defect.
We have more parties than a frat house.
In our next election, there are about 30 parties fielding candidates (five have a legitimate chance of electing a Member to Parliament). You should see the respective candidates from the Communist, Marxist-Leninist and Trotskyist League parties argue nuanced policies in front of seven pig farmers in my riding. Gripping.
Sadly for me there is no Bloc Quebecois (Quebec separatist party) candidate in my riding. He/she would get my vote. I want the bastards to separate too.
Are you crazy? Biden new more of McCains record than Palin did...Biden Crushered Her
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DRUNKS FOR OBAMA!!!
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If this is an attempt at mocking me at least get it right....it's alcoholic
AND with no disrespect, I saw a picture of you, and it looks like you and a gym haven't seen each other in a long time.
Have a great, I have CC and Hammer blocked. You can out from their coat tails now.
Obama's proud voting block
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It's all tactics, If Biden humiliated her (he would have looked) bad, bashing the humble soccer mom
Poor little Miss Palin being bullied.
I take back my 'tard reference about Palin and I'd like to insert it here
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Are you....nevermind.
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Not even close
If you want a true example of what you're referencing, see the '92 VP debate when Danny Quayle whipped Gore. Now that was embarrassing.
I haven't Dan Quayle, he's not a friend of mine, but Sarah, I can still say, you're no Dan Quayle.
But you agree that Biden should be wearing a gold necklace and pink ring, yes?
Perhaps he could sell used cars if the veep thing doesn't work out.
I'll agree to that, but I have a question...
does Joe have hair plugs? You'll forgive me, but day after day of seeing Johnny Mac's mug has caused me to focus on such superficial things. Joe's only six years younger but he looks about twenty younger. Face lift as well? I'm tempted to go back and look at pictures of his hairline from thirty years ago to see if he pulled an Affleck.
Of course he does.
It's Greaseball 101.
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Uh, no
Quayle got whipped by Bentsen in '88. I'm referring to the '92 race when Quayle debated Gore and Stockdale. Quayle's performance was the highlight of the Bush campaign. I'm not being sarcastic, he performed very well, and not in a dumbed-down, Palinesque, standard of measurement.
You are correct...
hence the deleted post
For a retard, she sure made a laughing stock of a "seasoned" debater.
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Hmmm...not totally sure she would appreciate you defending her with 'tard references....
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Once again, this board's opinion on the debates is directly opposite the facts
Palin's performance was considered a win because she didn't implode. Congrats. But the fact is every post-debate poll thus far has shown she clearly lost the debate. She never talked issues, falling back on a folksy litany of talking points. What's your take on the mortgage crisis, Governor Palin? Let me tell you about my energy policy in Alaska. What's your take on the economy? Let me tell you about my energy policy in Alaska. WTF? How about answering a question, ever? Palin was so insubstantial on the issues that my wife called her "George Bush with boobs."
A post-debate CBS poll showed that 98% of people felt Biden was knowledgable on the issues. 98%!!! The same polls that were eventually proven out by Rasmussen as showing Obama as the winner of the first presidential debate shows Biden beating Palin by a margin that's twice as big (roughly 65% give the nod to Biden).
Again, Palin gets a pat on the back because she didn't totally suck. Uh, bravo!
Agreed! Palin's use of the Obama strategy of promising everything while saying nothing got old
pretty fast, huh?
I'm impartial -- and you are dead on.
The Republicans will claim victory simply for the fact that Palin didn't embarrass herself.
Biden came off as more knowledgeable, answered questions a little more directly (as directly as politicians do) and genereally seemed more polished. I don't want a VP that's folksy -- I can get that at the local church potluck. I want one that knows his/her shit.
So you would rather have a VP that would steal your wallet?
I'm voting to Newton Gingrich.
I don't like either ticket
but I'm leaning toward Obama. I'm all for a decent set of tits and ass as much as the next guy, but I can't stomach the folksy-bullshit-and-wink routine.
Have you considered writing in Newt Gingy?
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If he spelled it "Knute" it would be a possibility
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Dude, you're citing fucking CBS as a source? That's a joke and you know it.....
Also, I didn't say Biden lost the debate. The FACT is that he didn't smoke Palin like he should have. Biden spewed bullshit soundbites the whole fucking debate. Come on Mac, you're reaching for straws here. You need to admit that Biden let your boy down.
I thought he and Palin did better than expected, as do most viewers
I was right about the first presidential debate, and I'm right about this debate. Palin had to convince voters she wasn't the total trainwreck we've been led to believe, and she succeeded. Biden had to convince people he was as knowledgable as his resume suggests without committing a big gaffe or insulting Palin, and he succeeded.
Biden knows his shit, and it showed. Palin had to cram a bunch of soundbites in her head in the last week, and it showed. Palin is warm and folksy, and an utterly incompetent VP pick. Still.
Re: I thought he and Palin did better than expected, as do most viewers
We know you're right....you always remind us of that....dont be redundant
Again, try to follow along....
Biden did not "smoke" Sarah Palin. That is, in effect, a loss for Biden. I am right about that and that's the point I was trying to make. Biden, didn't help Barry's cause with this debate. You will see in the next poll a bounce for McCain. That's a guarantee.
So Palin's performance guarantees a bounce in polls?
LOB BALL ALERT 2! LOB BALL ALERT 2!!
Man, I could have put air quotes all over that.
You're guaranteeing a bounce for McCain?
We'll see. Palin solidified her base and did jackshit to pull in moderates and undecideds. Guaranteed.
I think you have it backwards. Biden had more to prove and he proved nothing. Biden was a...
disappointment and you know it. Did the "seasoned debater" kick Palin's ass? HELL NO and you know it. Now that's sad. It's especially sad that Biden didn't kick the shit out of someone who's considered elementary at best.
Re: I think you have it backwards. Biden had more to prove and he proved nothing. Biden was a...
It's the story of this race....8 years of utter incompetence by the republicans and as usual the Dems cant take advantage of it
WHile the dems have seen a minor bounce in recent weeks the race is still too close to call.....and that was a play on words.....race could still wind up deciding this election....
There is no way you believe this
Biden had more to prove? The seasoned politician with a consitent track record longer than John Holmes johnson had more to prove than a previously unknown governor of Alaska? You're nothing short of insane if you truly believe that.
Biden showed he was knowledgable, Palin showed she can hold her own. However, Palin's actual message was hollow, and she was just a cheerleader for McCain. Which is fine, that is what she was supposed to do (If I hear fucking Maverick one more time I will puke, I was hoping someone would mention goose or iceman). The onus was on her, and lets be real, everyone, dems and republicans, were tuned in simply to see if she would just implode in some way. Congrats, she didn't.
If Biden pulls no punches and is too much on the offensive, he looks like a dick. No need for him to do that. Palin offered little or no substance, and anyone can see that. Biden treated the debate like she was not even there, which is exactly what he should have done.
Overall, Biden is the winner of this debate.
No matter, it will be forgotten after Saturday night when Tina Fey gets her next Palin bit in. A V.P. debate is nothing in the grand scheme of the presidential election. It's just for show, and at best, solidifies your backers. The swing voters are pulled by the Pres. Those are the debates that will make a difference.
Biden didn't win the debate....
At best it was a draw. I watched the fucking thing twice. My point is, he should have wiped the floor with Palin. He didn't, so he failed. Any more questions Mrs. Lib? Jeez
I think the general consensus leading up tonight was that this debate was about Palin's performance.
In that sense, it was Palin that had to show something tonight, not Biden. And she did. There was no "deer in the headlights". The base will sleep well tonight.
There's only one VP debate and for Biden to not dominate was a huge disappointment.....
He fucked up
I think I understand what you're trying to say.
Biden came into the debate as a 3 TD favorite. You bet on Palin and took the points. That Biden only won by a TD means you won the bet, which makes you happy. But it doesn't change the fact that Biden won, he just failed to cover the spread.
To me it was more of a tie, which in effect means Biden lost the debate. So, no that's not what....
I was trying to say. It's nice to see our friends up north so interested in US Politics. It warms my cockles.
What did Biden have to prove?
He affirmed who he was and won the debate, and Palin had a respectable showing. McCain is hurting--pulling out of Michigan to focus money on Indiana, which has become a "battleground state"?--and tonight did nothing to change that.
That's not what I saw. Biden didn't distinguish himself, period
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A laughing stock? Please.
Right-wingers will think that Palin won; left, Biden.
Actually, there was no winner tonight....
Biden was a let down. He should have made mince meat of Palin. His arguments were nothing more than the typical left wing soundbites. This, in effect, makes Biden a laughing stock.
True story. I saw Palin handing out orange slices and participation badges after the debate.
Appealing to the soccer mom base and all....
Actually, she likes hockey...like you....hmmmmm.
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She likes hockey AND me? Clearly a woman of good taste.
LOB BALL ALERT!!! LOB BALL ALERT!!!!
hahaha
stop hijacking my posts.
Voters' opinions on Biden's competence on the issues jumped from 68% to 98% post-debate
Biden spent 90 minutes doing almost nothing but talking specific policy initiatives while Palin acted as a McCain cheerleader. (He's a maverick--I FUCKING GET IT!)
Biden was tasked with talking issues, attacking McCain, and not looking like a misogynistic ass by going after Palin. Success, success, success.
How many of those "voters" were playing drinking games during the debate?
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Taking a shot everytime Palin said maverick
would kill even the most seasoned drinker
98%
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Question was for me in reference to the multiple beers I consumed before and during chat
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CBS is an irrelevant source. 98% my ass.
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Rasmussen validated their post-debate polls last week, and they'll do it again this week.
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If Palin is a retard, what does that make Biden?
Ubertard, King of Greaseballs?