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Reason to worry about the USA, #4567: Trust in science is becoming increasingly partisan

Author: Chris94 (36757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:47 pm on May 12, 2022
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A big chunk of this country is losing touch with reality. Facts no longer matter. Truth is meaningless. Just look at this board.

That's one of Trump's many charming legacies.


Link: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-being-anti-science-is-now-part-of-many-rural-americans-identity/

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PS-Does the XY chromosomal complement denote a male? I’ll hang up and listen on my CB.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59977 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:11 am on May 13, 2022
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We rural aren’t as sophist-o-cated as you big city university folk. Lol!....

Author: BaronVonZemo (59977 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:50 pm on May 12, 2022
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....we don’t believe the Left’s lies, it’s not actual science that we doubt, [knucklehead]…[changed from dumbass because I know your smarter than this].

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Republicans won't accept science because they are inbred moron scum.

Author: NocalIrish (1344 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 8:51 pm on May 12, 2022
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Facts show Republicans are all scum.
Thank God for Joe Biden and the Democrats.


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Trust the science! Unless is has to do with climate change, biological sex, or abortion.

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 2:45 pm on May 12, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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Predictable reactions by predictable dipshits.

Author: Chris94 (36757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:48 pm on May 12, 2022
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Someone who thinks Biden is doing a good job calls other people a dipshit.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 2:05 pm on May 12, 2022
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Liberal logic at its best. Also believed masks worked and he was “following the science”

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:10 pm on May 12, 2022
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By telling me I was killing people for not taking the shot. Intelligent my ass.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Oh pls. Could you have 1 ounce of honesty? Institutional science always follows politics. You know

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:39 pm on May 12, 2022
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it better than most people.

Institutional science is NOT some objective reasonable force outside of politics. Their scientists spend most of their careers chasing government grant funding, and fighting for appointments and promotions in government-funded university systems. Institutional science always follows politics. Nobody knows this as much as the disingenuous politicians who claim that their policies are based on scientific findings which is totally BS.


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For some people, trust is granted until faith in that trust is destroyed (covid agenda).

Author: IrishMac (1684 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:33 pm on May 12, 2022
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For others, trust must be earned.

And then, there is "liberal policies" designated as science, which just causes division all together and lost of trust for everyone unless they believe in the liberal policies.


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Some people even think statistics is not scientific, but politics is.

Author: NedoftheHill (44686 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:10 pm on May 12, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Seriously, though. Dems push fake science as science and are surprised people don't trust it? WTF?

Author: NedoftheHill (44686 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:13 pm on May 12, 2022
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Only someone who does not trust science could suggest that sex is not genetic. The Left is pushing policy, calling it science, and then is surprised that they are successfully undermining trust in science? What else could possibly have been the outcome of your efforts?

Of course people don't trust liberal pseudoscience. Stop labeling liberal policies as science, and maybe people will trust science again.


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Before COVID-19 hit us, I'd venture to say that the large majority of board members, and GOP

Author: TyroneIrish (20477 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:06 pm on May 12, 2022
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leaders, had zero complaints with our CDC, FDA, or the WHO...thanks to their demonstrated expertise in dealing with all kinds of viruses...from Smallpox and Polio to Ebola....the same organizations...programs...policies...and people...what changed?

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What changed? Really?

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 1:31 pm on May 12, 2022
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Previously they had no impact on our daily lives. Then they suddenly had a gigantic impact on our lives. And much of what they said turned out to either be an intentional lie (Fauci mask fliperoo, Lab Leak coverups, squashing Great Barrington without utilizing actual science, etc etc etc), or what they said was clearly driven by politics (Masking toddlers, masking kids in schools LONG after it was clear that there was NO scientific basis, endorsing lockdown madness in blue states, rent holidays, student loan holidays).

The CDC, NIH, and WHO made some gigantic, egregious errors and the entire house should be cleaned.


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BINGO!...I had no idea we'd get to the crux of the matter this quickly..."Previously they had no

Author: TyroneIrish (20477 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:05 pm on May 12, 2022
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impact on our daily lives."...your statement exposes the problem...i.e. the "Self-Centeredness" of a significant portion of our society. Faced with a true 'Pandemic' that requires ALL human beings to do their part in denying the COVID-19 virus opportunities to spread its deadly virions among them.. .they selfishly resist and lash out at those who would even suggest that they do the "unthinkable"...such as wearing a mask...aided and abetted by a total lack of leadership from the start.

As to your "points"...
>Dr. Fauci was candid...he publicly explained his rationale for not insisting that everyone immediately go out and purchase masks...essentially ensuring that PPE (i.e. masks) would remain available to medical and frontline service people...also, at the beginning of the pandemic, no one knew yet that asymptomatic people (40-45%) were spreading the disease.
>"Lab Leaks"...you haven't been keeping up...NO ONE KNOWS YET how the virus got started...and until China provides all the necessary data, we can't make a conclusion...plus there are recent studies that point strongly to natural causes...like all other outbreaks thus far...including the 1918 Spanish Flu.
>'Great Barrington"...vaccines work very, very well...we don't need to sacrifice millions of people to achieve "herd immunity".
>"Masking" works...and scientific studies prove it (e.g. 350,000 participant RCT with just 'Surgical Masks')...also, since kids are people, masks can protect them and those who come in contact with them, too.
>"Lockdowns" can help, but only in the very early stages...they were dropped in the U.S. after it was clear that it was too late...outlandish reports were subsequently written that included 'Mask Mandates' as "Lockdowns"...I'm not kidding...WAY over stated.
>The CDC, NIH and WHO have stuck to "The Science"...the "ME ONLY" cohort has rejected science...and therein lies the problem.


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Thanks for proving my points.

Author: Iggle (12620 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 4:08 pm on May 12, 2022
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Fauci and you admit he lied.

Lab Leak - Fauci and Collins both tried to squelch it for purely political reasons. They LIED about a consensus that it didn't happen

Great Barrington was about protecting the people most at risk and was not anti-vax (no idea where you came up with that howler) Fauci and Collins tried their best to squelch it and destroy the reputations of the highly competent people who wrote it. We would have been MUCH better off if we had followed their recommendations.

Masking toddlers is ridiculous (absolutely useless), and masking schoolchildren did absolutely no good (and much harm, socially). There is not A SINGLE STUDY that proves masking schoolchildren was efficacious.

Lockdowns were useless and socially devastating. Millions of people had their livelihoods wrecked because the Democrat Telecommuting Class was frightened.

Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere, clown.


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No surprise here...claim the high ground without evidence or proof...but since you're not alone...

Author: TyroneIrish (20477 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:36 pm on May 12, 2022
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here's evidence of how you are indeed wrong...

>Upon learning of COVID-19's asymptomatic spread, Dr. Fauci amended his position on masks...from the beginning, the need for PPE (masks) for Health Care personnel was obvious, since "Symptomatic" people were flooding into hospitals, so with these two FACTS in mind, it is wrong to suggest that he in any way "Lied" about the use of masks.

>There is NO PROOF that COVID-19 originated in the Wuhan Lab...any statement that it did is PURE SPECULATION...if you disagree, please provide that PROOF.

>The Great Barrington Declaration was a 'self-inflicted' wound to the reputations of the signatories (see link)...sort of like those who pushed Ivermectin and HCQ.

>Masking works...I've provided many posts (even Baron's MIT Report) that prove this...the science applies to kids as well as all other humans, but while toddlers don't always 'follow' instructions, school kids can and do...without the mindless complaining some of their parents exhibit (I've seen this for myself).

>I've already explained the "Overwrought" view of "Lockdowns"...that tactic was short-lived...but the "Meme" carries on.

btw, I'll continue to do my best to bring evidence and proof to discussions on this board...call it 'lifetime employment', given folks like yourself ;-).


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration

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Fauci, who has proven to be nothing more than a

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:25 pm on May 12, 2022
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political hack, and lying fraud. He checks most of the boxes for you

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Maybe changing the definition of vaccine was a bad move after all.

Author: Cole (16190 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:56 pm on May 12, 2022
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Please tell me you are including the liberals in the "look at this board" comment?

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:53 pm on May 12, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Yep, moron republicans don't believe men can get pregnant

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:50 pm on May 12, 2022
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Silly isn't it!

Author: Frankx (5322 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 12:54 pm on May 12, 2022
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