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Thank God for Joe Biden and the Democrats.

Now, he has to move swiftly to take all guns away, continue abortion on demand up till birth, make all bathrooms gender fluid, and make CRT mandatory. This assault rifle thing bugs me. None of us can explain what it is but we can all agree that these weapons of war have to go. Same thing with our beloved abortion. We can't explain when life begins, but we know that on demand abortion up to birth has to continue. Let's continue to fight the good fight and swamp this place with links that no one reads from WAPO , NYT, and other credible sources. This notion of blaming the murderer is outdated. It's the weapon my man. Keep up the great comments.

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Is your infatuation with a gun more important to you than the lives of even school children?...pretty sad, Cole.

to kill becomes vehicles like we saw in Wisconsin (to which the msm basically swept under the rug) where crazy people start to run over people at parades, parking lots, various other outdoor events, etc. Would you want to ban vehicles? What happened in Texas is a horrible tragedy. We all agree on that. You want to blame the tool. I look at the “why” is this happening more frequently in recent years than say 30+ years ago and back. A lot of the recent mass shootings had signs everywhere but nobody did anything so you want to punish the million of law abiding citizens who own guns because of a few jackasses. Even if you have the most strict laws, arms will be readily available on the black market. Look at the gun violence in major cities. Nobody on the left says anything. Don’t those kids lives matter? In addition, for those in those cities that buy guns, it’s not like they are going to the local Cabela’s or Bass Pro Shop to buy the gun.

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"One of the most significant provisions of the NFA was a flat-out ban on certain kinds of guns, such as automatic and semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. But there were already a number of such guns in circulation in Australia, and the NFA required getting them off the streets.

Australia solved this problem by introducing a mandatory buyback: Australia's states would take away all guns that had just been declared illegal. In exchange, they'd pay the guns' owners a fair price, set by a national committee using market value as a benchmark, to compensate for the loss of their property. The NFA also offered legal amnesty for anyone who handed in illegally owned guns, though they weren't compensated.

There were fears that the mandatory buyback would provoke resistance: During one address to a crowd of gun rights supporters, Howard wore a bulletproof vest. Thankfully, fears of violence turned out to be unfounded. About 650,000 legally owned guns were peacefully seized, then destroyed, as part of the buyback. According to one academic estimate, this amounted to about 20 percent of all privately owned guns in Australia."
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As mentioned...all it takes is for all the "Law Abiding and Responsible" gun owners to "Sacrifice" a class of firearms that has many other alternatives for 'Hunting', 'Target Shooting' and 'Home Defense'...so that the rest of society doesn't have to pay the price we're seeing today.


Link: https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback

So, this leaves ~ 80% still out in the population with gun types across the spectrum.
The number of unregistered guns in Australia is unknown per link and there is a trend toward more use of handguns..


Link: https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi361#:~:text=Firearm-related%20crime%20is%20relatively%20low%20in%20Australia.%20However%2C,used%20to%20commit%20most%20handgun%20crime%20in%20Australia.

the ban was put in place over twenty years ago (4 victims, I believe)...this country would take that in a heartbeat...shows what effect strong pushback from government can do to the fringe elements of the populace...didn't need to remove all guns...just a fraction...and, of course the cessation of manufacturing/sales of those weapons to new buyers who might be impulsive shooters.

Here's some more analysis of mass shootings (see link)...lots of good info...worth reading...and here are the concluding remarks...
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Only through understanding the true nature of mass shootings can we begin to seek evidence-based solutions. Lawmakers should pass legislation requiring background checks on all firearm sales, temporarily removing firearms through Extreme Risk laws, keeping firearms out of the hands of domestic abusers, AND RESTRICTING THE PURCHASE, POSSESSION, AND MANUFACTURE OF ASSAULT WEAPONS AND HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES." (my emphasis)
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There's simply no good argument for keeping Assault Weapons and High Capacity Magazines on the market...let's stop the nonsense and ban them...NOW...along with Conor's list of other actions needed from the federal government.


Link: https://everytownresearch.org/maps/mass-shootings-in-america/

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his narrative, all blacks good, all whites bad.

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and bosses. I had been jogging along the river during a layover in St. Louis about as I passed the Gateway Arch on my way back to my room at the Sheraton Hotel there was a tremendous boom and black smoke billowed from a parking structure next to the hotel with car horns blaring loudly and echoing from the open structure.

I learned later that a bomb had been placed in the car of a politician who had been to a political luncheon at an exclusive restaurant. As I recall he was killed but who ever was with him survived.

Some cost many thousands more than $1500.

I should probably be buying several dozen S&W M&P 15-22 .22 long rifle guns right now. They cost just a few hundred dollars. I could make a killing when the government starts paying me $1500 a pop.

Would you stop with ARs? What about the AK-47? SKS variants?

Since you are banning a type of rifle because it looks bad ass (and so mass murderers are attracted to it), would you also ban red, pink, gray or green ARs? They do exist. What about wood stock AR's? They also exist. As far as I know, no mass shooter has ever selected a colored AR or a wood stocked AR for a mass shooting. Why ban those as well?

What about guns like the Ruger Mini-14 (pictured below), which shoots the same bullets at the same rate of fire?...but is never used by mass shooters? Are you ok with that gun? Or, would you ban it as well?

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Or, is it your position that the obstacle course to vote should be more burdensome than the requirements to buy a firearm?

Obviously, the right answer is that ID laws are not discriminatory...that blacks are just as intellectually capable of getting IDs as whites are, and you have been wrong to believe blacks are inferior in that way.

ID's should be checked for both guns and voting. Why would you argue otherwise?...only if you think blacks are inferior.

Moreover, the absence of voter ID laws has not resulted in mass shootings of school children.

"Hi, my name is Ned. I deflect and pitch nonsense when I have no other argument to account for the bloodshed enabled by my voting history for the GOP."

You are two-faced on this issue, and you have no answer. Your "Voter ID" position is racist, and you know it, so you seek to avoid the issue, while nonetheless sticking with it. Morally shameful.

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still alive with the plethora of bills currently proposed (see link)...many of which would definitely not make it easier to vote...and when you're short on good policies or demonstrated performance for the American people, you do what you have to do to stay in power...ergo, the voter suppression bills.

Link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-february-2022

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not going to score you any points ;-)...there are reasonable people watching, whether you know it or not.

Boy those new laws down here in Georgia really suppressed the voting. Record turnouts.

What a bunch of bullshit. Having to show an ID is discriminatory? I still thank that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard however it’s getting watered down by all the other bullshit in this administration. Like force-feeding electric cars onto us by dramatically raising the price of gas.

mobilized and litigated to blunt much of those restrictions...but it's abundantly clear that after losing their Senate seats, and the Presidency, in a proven fair and free election, the Georgia GOP is doing all it can to make it harder for Dems there to vote.

The intent of the Georgia Voting Law was to unfairly limit voting by Democrats...typically African Americans...e.g. making it a misdemeanor to offer food and water to those standing in long lines...really?...as if someone standing in a line to vote for hours hadn't made their mind up yet on who they wanted to vote for...that is patently "mean spirited" on the part of the GOP and shows what their true intent is with all the other restrictions.

But that's just Georgia...you should actually read my earlier link to see what many other states are attempting to do with their laws...it all adds up to the GOP subverting democracy since the don't have the policies and candidates that will win over the majority of Americans.

As for electric vehicles...car companies have been making commitments to go with EVs long before the price of gas shot up (because of COVID and Putin)...check that out for yourself.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.html

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being contemplated by the GOP (see link)...this extension of the Voter Law in Georgia should send chills down the spines of all true Americans.

We have sufficient controls to ensure free and fair elections...just like we had in 2020...let's not ruin a great democracy with un-American partisanship.


Link: https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jul/14/are-state-legislators-really-seeking-power-overrul/

The USA is not a democracy and you forgot to mention Jim Crow.

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Will be interesting if Dems try to stop them. I guess I think it is far more likely that Conor would try to take my suburban harmless guns away than urban guns.

not 12 or 30? age is but a number.

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If someone is pushing the "gun show" thing, they are showing you their lack of understanding of the issue. I would be interested in knowing if the New York Times is pushing the gun show sales as a problem.

There is no "gun show loop hole." Every retailer which sells at a gun show must run background checks as if his customers were in his store.

The only gun transactions which do not require background checks are private transactions, such as me giving a gun to my son whether as a gift or inheritance, or a friend selling a gun to a friend.

You would have to support making private transactions illegal unless they are through a licensed gun dealer, which costs money (usually 10% or more of the value of the gun). The dealer would run the background check. Or, make the federal background system available to private citizens. But, it doesn't matter, because criminals would just ignore this rule anyway.

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This has nothing to do with gun shows.

There are licensed dealers who run checks at gun shows (the majority of gun show sales).

Then there are private citizens who buy a table at a gun show. They don't run background checks. For example, I inherited some cowboy guns (1800's revolvers), and I've thought about buying a table at a local show to sell them, since I don't want to keep them. As a private citizen, I'm allowed to sell from my "private collection."

If you target gun shows, you are only targeting some private transactions.
--Is your goal to have background checks on all private transactions? If so, why mention gun shows?
--Or, is your goal only to have background checks on private transactions at gun shows? If the latter, I like that better, because I want to be able to give my guns to my kids without background checks.

Fake "private collection" unlicensed dealers should be targeted, by the way.

No national database as it could be misused by govt as we have seen other govt orgs misused and weaponized

No banning of weapon types imo

But zi sgree with athe licensing and acquisition proposals I 21 is much better age

Must have border control as well.

We have some common law

Pew Research has some good data.

Link: https://www.pewresearch.org/topic/politics-policy/political-issues/gun-policy/

A while back, I think it was New York which had some provision about confiscating guns from mentally ill people. Then, some liberals started going after MAGA people (or someone like that), basically saying they had to be mentally ill to believe what they believe. You get the idea. I think the courts stopped them, and ended up nullifying the rule because of the ability to abuse it. I'm not going to google the details, because I don't care enough to do so, but you get the idea. There have to be checks and balances to keep Democrats from trying to take guns away from their coworkers out of the personal fear and loathing of those Democrats, not out of actual problems with the gun owner.

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It doesn't mean we it cannot be done. It just takes will. American "can do" spirit!

See New Zealand. They got it done in 26 days. No mass shootings since.

Regarding New Zealanders, they don't crave individual freedom like Americans. Bad example.

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