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Tone deaf and clueless as to the read of the room.
The arts are particularly monolithic and socrnful of any artist who deviates from the dominant orthodoxies. IBeyond Diamond Girl live, I've never been a fan, but they had to understand that by releasing this song, they would forever make themselves as targets for the remainder of their careers. They weren't targeting a Christian audience and attempting to pander to them. They just wrote a song about something they believed and released, the consequences be damned.
Unborn Child Lyrics
Oh little baby, you'll never cry, nor will you hear a sweet lullaby.
Oh unborn child, if you only knew just what your momma was plannin' to do.
You're still a-clingin' to the tree of life, but soon you'll be cut off before you get ripe.
Oh unborn child, beginning to grow inside your momma, but you'll never know.
Oh tiny bud, that grows in the womb, only to be crushed before you can bloom.
Mama stop! Turn around, go back, think it over.
Now stop, turn around, go back, think it over.
Stop, turn around, go back think it over.
Oh no momma, just let it be. You'll never regret it, just wait and see.
Think of all the great ones who gave everything
That we might have life here, so please bear the pain.
Mama stop! Turn around, go back, think it over.
Now stop, turn around, go back, think it over.
Stop, turn around, go back think it over.
well received seeing they would go on to pen several more hits and created soundtracks for several Hollywood films. Was it guts they showed by creating a protest song during the era of
great protest - The Vietnam War, the draft, Nixon impeachment hearings and more? I don't think so. They may have been more ridiculed for their new found religion of then, Baháʼí Faith,
than the song itself. Most agreed then - as they do today - abortion rights are a woman's rights no matter how you or anyone else feels about it. Seals and Croft protested that policy and were
no more disliked than Buffalo Springfield or Bob Dylan in their anti war protest songs.
I don't think the song was intended to target the Catholics or deeply religious - it was a song to all young women, a call to think before their choice
was made. More of a, slow down, see what you will miss anthem rather than a song about a woman is a bad woman for not seeing what they see.
Ridiculous spin.
And "most didn't support the choice" to kill one's unborn baby then. It wasn't even close. When the constitutional amendment for abortion came down to the final state of Michigan in the late Fall of 1972, the measure failed....a whopping 78% said "no" to abortion rights. Also understand how a constitutional amendment works...once a state votes in favor it is locked in whereas any state that votes against it can be repetitioned over and over within the timeframe until it flips just once. Even with this advantage, they were not able to get the public to agree to killing unborn life. This is exactly why the activists judges on the SCOTUS in 1973 stepped in. They decided to legislate the issue because the support for unborn life was too strong to get it passed through any other way.
Let's hope that gets changed this month. It should never happen, but hopefully it will at least once again be in the hands of voters rather than "9 people in black robes" as the Planned Parenthood people now ironically say after having financially benefitted from those robes for all fo these years.
impregnated...be it violent rape, date rape, incest or forced intercourse in marriage when one more pregnancy is "intolerable"...this is why over 80% of Americans, including Catholics, since 1975 do not want abortion to be illegal under ALL circumstances. Furthermore, it is literally impossible to fairly judge each and every situation given the short time available to reach a decision, so it must be the woman's choice.
We all wish such circumstances didn't exist...but they do...and this is why the Supreme Court should not overturn Roe v. Wade...let's focus instead on Contraception, better Sexuality education, and funding for programs that make the "intolerable"...tolerable.
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OK. With the scenarios that you argue, let's abolish abortion except in those extreme cases.
numerous posts and links on this issue...then maybe you'll be inclined to do your own "listening".
As for the extreme cases...I ask you...in one trimester's time...or two...how will you know for sure whether it was a violent rape...date rape...incest...or forced intercourse in marriage, not to mention the many other ways that "Unwanted Pregnancies" occur...will the rapist say "Yeah, you got me...I did it", or the relative say "I'm sorry...shouldn't have done that", or the husband say "I'll be more respectful....plus, I'll wear a condom next time"?
The obvious answer is that there's absolutely no way of establishing the man's guilt...and even if the offenders were identified, the woman still has a life changing pregnancy that is totally unwanted...it is no "Gift from God"...it is a biological "attack" on her that she should not have to...if she does not want to...carry to term...it must be her choice, only.
As the ND Grad said in a paper I linked before said..."So long as there are Unwanted Pregnancies...there will be abortions"...let's push for a) Access to Contraception for all women, b) much better Sex and Sexuality education...not just in schools, but for "Adults" as well, and c) Funded Programs throughout the country that enable women to bring "Unwanted Pregnancies" to term.
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are women just 'Baby Making Machines' that must give birth no matter how they become pregnant?...
You are a piece of work. Do you listen and read what women in the pro-life movement are saying? You have no credibility on this subject. The stuff you listen to and read are only from those who favor abortions, from conception to birth. Don't tell me anything different. You're hardly a fair and balanced thinker.
question.
You are so incredibly flippant about someone elses young life. Like it's a piece of over ripe fruit. Discarded on a whim. Thanks to you, how many aborted little ones might have been the one person who found a cure for cancer or wrote the next great song or been the next great Olympic athlete? You are as credible talking on this issue as some celeb talking about gun control. When does life begin?
against their will and have to live with the consequences to their physical and mental health...their economic survival...and dreams for their own futures...because the government will put them in prison if they don't carry to term those unjust and unwanted pregnancies.
That "Sentence" for women has been consistently rejected by over 80% of Americans...and Catholics...since 1975...and I've just shown you why....that's not going to change.
The rational way to reduce abortions is...
>Make Contraception available to everyone, regardless of economic status
>Develop and implement Sex/Sexuality educational programs for all, from school age to adults
>Develop and implement programs that make it "tolerable" for women to carry pregnancies to term...this will take funding...not just prayers and good wishes.
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He reads only stuff from folks that agree with him. He will lie about this of course. But it's true.
And yes. He truly believes he speaks for God. He's an instrument of darkness.
of the month thing
"These are their opinions based on the varying degree of knowledge and expertise they have on a given subject."
Tyrone can therefore claim to be an expert on anything. He's a meatball.
"a call to think before their choice
was made. More of a, slow down, see what you will miss anthem rather than a song about a woman is a bad woman for not seeing what they see."
And God bless them for saying it.
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And that's saying something!
Rush once wrote a song about music integrity and making "endless compromises" to satisfy the guys on the top floor. Well, Seals & Crofts refused to compromise on "Unborn". They insisted that it be included on their upcoming LP, much to the dismay of those guys on the top floor. The idea of the song was inspired by a woman they knew. I never owned a Seals&Crofts LP back in the day but was well aware of "Unborn" when it was released .In my album search over the past few years, I have discovered them through two LPs of theirs that I have purchased. The deep tracks are really really good.
Really, all credit to them.
Link: https://somethingelsereviews.com/2015/06/27/seals-and-crofts-unborn-child-supreme-court/
"Both Seals and Crofts insist the song’s message was, simply “don’t take life too lightly,” to stop and think before going through with an abortion."
Also as I noted - Their new found faith was probably the biggest reason for their fame and stardom to wane - also noted in your link.
" - hey’d managed to work many of the key tenets of the Baha’i faith into their lyrics, and after every concert they returned to the stage, house lights up, and held informal “fireside chats” about their religion with whomever felt like sticking around.
That seemed to be enough. Proselytizing was and is a no-no for Baha’is, but Seals and Crofts had found a safe middle ground, where they could express their beliefs, and still have hit records."
The song may have been the beginning of the end of their success but it wasn't because of that one song or the album - It was because of their changed religion. The religion had taken over their song writing and their fandom - noted in your link.
My thesis isn't that you were wrong because that's what they did, they risked their popularity in a big way - I simply saw their fame and celebrity slowly disappear because of their religious issues and the proselytizing.