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And so it begins - Indiana becomes the media darling

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:12 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita is threatening criminal charges against the doctor who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio — a major escalation in the ongoing saga that has put the midwestern state on the frontlines of the post-Roe war.
A new letter from Rokita to Republican Gov. Eric Holcolmb dated Wednesday but released publicly on Thursday asks for records from the Indiana Department of Health and the Department of Child Services to determine whether the physician — Caitlin Bernard with Indiana University — filed the legally required reports within the 3-day window of performing the abortion.

Rokita alleges that the two state agencies have not adequately responded to his request to find out if Bernard has filed the appropriate records.

If an investigation now underway determines that the report was not filed or not filed in time, the letter warns, Bernard could face “criminal prosecution and licensing repercussions.”

Other medical workers in the state and progressive legal advocates told POLITICO they don’t believe Bernard broke any laws and say Rokita’s actions are designed to scare providers and deter them from offering abortions even in circumstances where it’s legal to do so.

“Certainly, it’s an intimidation tactic,” said Fabiola Carrión, the director of reproductive and sexual health at the National Health Law Program. “It’s currently legal in Indiana to offer abortions up to 22 weeks of pregnancy. And even if it wasn't, this is a life-endangerment situation. A 10-year-old with a still-developing body isn't capable of delivering a baby.”

“This is going to have a chilling effect on providers who won’t want to risk making that assessment themselves in the future,” she added. “Health care providers are generally very risk-averse. They have to pay a lot of money for liability insurance. And now they’re being targeted by people who know far less than they do about complex medical situations.”

Bernard did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

When POLITICO spoke to her in the weeks leading up to the Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade, she talked about her plans to keep serving patients in Indiana however she could no matter what restrictions her state imposed.

“It’s scary to think about what the next phase is going to look like,” she said in May. “But I made a commitment to do this work knowing full well that the criminalization of abortion could be a possibility. So I won't abandon it now for my own job security. This care will continue to be needed.”

The new threat from Rokita comes as Indiana — one of a dwindling number of deep red states where abortion remains legal — is just days away from kicking off a special legislative session where lawmakers are expected to take up bills to ban abortion — with the only question being what exceptions, if any, will be permitted.

The move by the attorney general — who is widely expected to one day run for either governor or senator — could not only push legislators to consider more sweeping measures to outlaw abortion but also create a chilling effect on other medical providers in the state.

“Why issue a threat before he has an idea of the full scope of the case? Why threaten the license of the doctor? Well, this is very on brand for him,” said Andrew Downs, the director of the Mike Downs Center for Indiana Politics at Perdue University. “Rokita’s comments also put pressure on the legislature to move as far towards making abortion illegal in all instances as possible.”

Indiana lawmakers will hold a special session on July 25 to consider bills related to inflation as well as abortion.


Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/indiana-ag-eyes-criminal-prosecution-of-10-year-old-rape-victim-s-abortion-doc/ar-AAZAePe?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d031e26bec634c5f9e9108f0ed9b350b

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and Jane, she is a clerk

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Look out for the boomerang, Fox News.

Author: conorlarkin (21073 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:48 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/14/10-year-old-rape-story-fox-news-criticism/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Why is this unborn child's life less sacred, Jim?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60141 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:23 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Assuming the whole story is accurate. Even so, why do you hold this child up as worthy of killing?

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Stick to the article

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 7:50 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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I’m sticking to the article’s subject. It’s not a question you want to answer.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60141 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:38 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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We’ve been through your nonsense many times already. It’s now a new subject

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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we can discuss.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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No answer, so avoiding it. The unborn child’s life has equal worth regardless of rape jim.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60141 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:40 am on Jul 15, 2022
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Why aren’t the sperm sacred? They’re just as alive.

Author: Chris94 (36795 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:50 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Why would they be? They are less than skin cells--don't even have a full set of human DNA.

Author: NedoftheHill (44733 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:58 am on Jul 15, 2022
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Why argue against positions that don't exist? I guess you are trying to make the right look silly by arguing against a nonsense position, but it just makes it seem like you don't understand the issue.

A baby, before birth and after birth, has a full set of human DNA which is unique and different from the mother's DNA. Nothing changes for the baby at birth except for location and the means of nourishment. If it is a unique human after birth, it is a unique human before birth. Biological science is clear on this.

A pro-abortion person must either deny science, or deny basic human rights (which I think is where the Nazi thing came in, since they made that one of their specialties...asserting that a group of humans didn't have a right to continue living).


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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If sperm were sacred, you’d have holy hands. They are claiming much more here,aren’t they?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60141 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:35 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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As an Indiana resident, it is embarrassing to hear Indiana in the same sentence with abortion.

Author: ELP (9621 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:03 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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That's how my state is seen now to the nation.

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You should try reading some of your posts if you want embarrassment.

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 7:15 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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You've been taken to the woodshed around here so many times, I'd probably back off the jabs.

Author: ELP (9621 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:46 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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This was the little girl who was raped by the illegal immigrant?

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:49 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Did you bother reading the article?

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:02 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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I was just asking to make sure I had the same girl. Plus, I do a lot of root

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:05 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Cause analysis for work and I got this one solved already. So is it the same girl who was raped by the illegal immigrant?

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Yeah, you're a college grad.

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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So you’re not gonna answer?

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:08 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Read the article, Gup. Then comment on the article if you think you're capable.

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:12 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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Yup. Same guy. Close the border and this girl wouldn’t have had to go through this.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:15 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Link: https://www.newsweek.com/gerson-fuentes-charged-raping-ohio-10-year-old-girl-illegal-immigrant-report-1724541

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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MSDNC. Same network that make Nick Sandmann a rich man.

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 5:40 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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The extremists drive the pro-life bus

Author: Chris94 (36795 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:34 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great


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The extremists blow it up.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60141 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:22 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Sperm?...not a human being...just a cell w/half DNA. Maybe a law to end that guys sperm is in order.

Author: NedoftheHill (44733 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Why lie about the Right to make them seem crazier than they are? Maybe the Right is too normal for you?

And, of course, you fail to mention the crazy extremist Left which won't accept compromise...and which would groom that 10 year old for sex in the classroom. Face it, the extermist Left is far more bizarre. We don't have to make stuff up about what they want.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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“ which would groom that 10 year old for sex in the classroom”

Author: Chris94 (36795 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:17 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Religious fanatics are morons, no matter what the religion.

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Your party voted to allow mothers to kill after-birth children, you Nazi.

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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You are a walking advertisement for the importance of abortion

Author: Chris94 (36795 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:15 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Always taking the moral high ground.

Author: NedoftheHill (44733 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:02 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I’m not allowed to respond to being called a Nazi and a jerkoff? Gotcha.

Author: Chris94 (36795 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:51 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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I see now what offends you. Not killing children. Just being called a Nazi.

Author: NedoftheHill (44733 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:32 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Boy, Gumby, you really can twist.

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:55 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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Victim?

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 8:53 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Granted, Nazi is a bit over the top.

Author: Iggle (12643 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:08 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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I see what you did there.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:39 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Oooo, mic drop!

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:27 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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No comment on the article about Indiana Attorney General prosecuting the Dr.?

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:06 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
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Trick question? How can a Democrat like me answer if I don't know the doctor's race?

Author: NedoftheHill (44733 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:52 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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...or his immigration status?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Well, easy. You being a far right extremist democrat like Cruz

Author: jimbasil (52715 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:59 pm on Jul 14, 2022
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should have no difficulty in passing on your radical minded conditioned thoughts.

You will take Carlson for the daily double.


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