As an aside, there is ZERO reason to vaccinate any kid 11 and under, most likely 18 and under, and very few people 49 and under.
Link: https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1549728920622227457?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
I can’t believe I’m wasting my time with this. But here it is. For example:
You always cite that one study from the UK - 90% of covid deaths were vaccinated in a country with 76% vaccination rate or some such.
1) We don’t know the demographics of the unvaccinated population. They are likely to be young, healthy people.
2) the real data would be in the high risk group - old with comorbidities, vaxxed vs unvaxxed.
3) the data you cherry-pick your way through is quite clear on this.
4) you should trust the people who are much more educated on this stuff. And much smarter.
We do know the ages and demographics of the ages of the vaxxed and unvaxxed. I previously linked to it from the UK NAS. It holds through every age group that the vaccinated are dying at a greater rate than the unvaccinated.
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Go into the replies for a corrected chart.
Doesn't matter the age group. Same data for all according to the UK NAS.
1 is probably correct in all countries. The old and people with comorbidities are the most vaxed so his data is very probable that they would have the highest death rate even while being vaxed.
I don't regret getting vaccinated and boosted and I did get a very mild case COVID that may or may not have been weaker becasue of the vax.
I'm just over the whole damn public paranoia thing.
It bought out the worst OCD tendencies in our public and the politicians took full advantage.
Never again.
Covid rarely comes up in any conversation I have. Or personal interaction. If someone has it, and few people actually test that I know, they stay in the house away from people for a bit.
Mark's looking for any win in life.
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SoCal is seriously considering imposing masks again... most absurdly on kids in schcols.
I was in Ann Arbor today and a local Karen accosted me for not masking when entering an elevator to an ourdoor parking structure.
To my credit I did not react... except with an eyeroll (I still need ti work on my compassion).
I agree that the stats Mark cites don't paint any kind of picture that can be effectively analyzed. Too many unknown factors.
But the everyone has to get vaxxed (including my healthy kids) completely ignores relative risk for individuals. This has been my quarrel the entire time. Long term risk of the vaccines isn't known.
Many, perhaps most adults should get / should have gotten vaxxed. Some of those should get / should have gotten booster(s). But not everyone.
Anecdotally, for me the 2nd Pfizer shot was worse than CoVid. If you were my primary doc, or if you were me would you get boosted? I won't.
If your kids had already had CoVid with mild symptoms, would you be getting them vaxxed? I won't.
And we should be tracking detailed statistics on age, co-morbidities, vaxx status, CoVid outcome and whatever other contextual data is available. You could then build a model and people could see their risk.
So the long-term risks are indeed known.
There is a tremendous amount of data on these vaccines.
The idea that “the truth!” is somehow being hidden for some reason (why?) is asinine.
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of mRNA doses given out and the tracking Health Organizations have done, we already know the side effects. It's a pity that Mark persists, but he's a fellow forum member an we try to help.
btw, mRNA vaccines have been in development for decades...and that includes voluminous testing...the technology is well understood...thank heaven we've been able to use it successfully because we're likely to need it again before too long.
Anyone who questions or complains about mRNA vaccines at this point is just trying to muddy the waters...only they can answer why they're doing it, because the biological science doesn't support them.
Why is it in the UK - AMONG ALL AGE GROUPS - the number of people per 100,000 dying of Covid > than the number of people per 100,000 vaccinated.
Wash that fetish gear boys...
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But we do know that there are side effects and risks to the vaccines in the short term that should be weighed against CoVid risks (like for my children, which seems to be almost zero).
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Takes about 5 seconds on google to learn that.
To be fair, Mark has been a colossal failure his entire adult life.
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Is good enough to rebuke those propaganda and lies such as 97% ER patients are unvaccinated.
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