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Any opinions on the FDA's proposed ban on menthol cigarettes?

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:29 pm on May 2, 2021
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Looks like they are going after any flavoring at all. Swisher Sweets, etc.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:14 pm on May 3, 2021
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Not sure if they are going after pipe tobacco as well. That usually is included since most pipe tobaccos are flavored. God forbid we have people enjoying a flavored tobacco, but smoking pot will be encouraged.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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They can have the swishers, leave my coffee infused cigars alone!

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:45 pm on May 3, 2021
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Author: TakethetrainKnute (33500 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:11 am on May 3, 2021
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Only within 125 feet of a polling place...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33500 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:01 am on May 3, 2021
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Expect about a thousand more Eric Garner incidents.

Author: jakers (13909 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:56 pm on May 2, 2021
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I’m against over regulation. Maintain the Trump rule: for every new reg, you must cut 2.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:04 pm on May 2, 2021
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An infantile, abitrary way to make policy.

Author: Chris94 (36780 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:44 pm on May 2, 2021
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Why? When you can easily cut 10 moronic regs for every one added, cutting 2 seems like a good start.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:17 pm on May 2, 2021
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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An awesome way to cut out deadwood regulation that's far more nuanced and targeted than you realize.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:40 pm on May 2, 2021
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It requires those who want a regulation to sift through old regulations and trim out deadwood. How badly you want the new regulation determines what you are willing to part with, and it makes the proposer of the regulation target specific things that they feel that they can live without. Since you are a leftist and have rarely met a regulation that you didn't like, this is likely a LOT more painful to you than me, but there are SO many regs out there that this rule is easily accomplished on both sides for the foreseeable future.

Had Obama said it, you would be singing ithe idea's praises.


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Back in the late 70’s there was a study

Author: jimbasil (52682 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:22 pm on May 2, 2021
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which stated menthol smokes did more damage to lungs than non-menthol.

It took 40 plus years to act on it?


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The added danger is minimal

Author: Chris94 (36780 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:44 pm on May 2, 2021
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I spent years poring over tobacco data while working for a law firm doing tobacco litigation in the late 90s. Menthols are bad...but not much worse than regular Marlboros.

Also: Filters do nothing.


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Of course, you did detailed work on this.How could we expect less from you?

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:52 pm on May 2, 2021
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So, you're in favor?

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:28 pm on May 2, 2021
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I think You misspelled “flavor”.

Author: jimbasil (52682 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:31 pm on May 2, 2021
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Other than that - WTF question is that?

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Any opinions on the FDA's proposed ban on menthol cigarettes?

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:35 pm on May 2, 2021
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Opposed

Author: Chris94 (36780 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:44 pm on May 2, 2021
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Why?

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:20 pm on May 2, 2021
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I don't like the nanny state stuff. Like the soda bans in NYC.

Author: Chris94 (36780 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:40 pm on May 2, 2021
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I agree of course.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:43 pm on May 2, 2021
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Yep, with ya there.

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:29 pm on May 2, 2021
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Why are they doing it?

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:37 pm on May 2, 2021
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Not sure, but its going to piss off the Black Community.Menth are hard

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:57 pm on May 2, 2021
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to get already, since BLM has burned many of their stores

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Unclear to me, unsurprisingly both sides of the issue cite race.

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:13 pm on May 2, 2021
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A couple of my own thoughts:

1. Could be a stepping stone to banning tobacco altogether.

2. Prohibition of substances doesn't tend to work, especially of they aren't going to make it illegal to possess.

3. Throws some cold water on Nigel's predictions of MJ legalization. Maybe it's a completely separate issue, but not encouraging.


Link: https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/551295-fda-ban-on-menthol-cigarettes-bad-for-criminal-justice-health-policy

Thread Level: 4

They banning malt liquor next?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33500 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:16 am on May 3, 2021
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