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Bill Clinton is priceless. He doesn't feel that his actions as President had anything...

Author: Domer From Hell (11565 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:30 pm on Feb 16, 2009
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to do with the current economic crisis. This guy's ego is bigger than his wife's kankles.

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Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090216/us_time/08599187977400

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Clinton made for some great Saturday Night Live skits!

Author: ODUIRISH (433 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:33 pm on Feb 17, 2009
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I still use ol' slick willy's thumbs up. Not because he used it, but because of how funny the guy from Saturday night live was using it...

For the record, I think Slick Willy was a good Politician, smooth talker, and extremely smart person who rode the wave of the .com craze in the economy. But I also know that he deployed more troops during peace time than any other president the the history of the US. Along with this, he proposed more military budget cuts than any other president in history. At least that was the fact during the mid 90's...


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clinton is a felon and should be in prison.

Author: und67 (5614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:15 pm on Feb 16, 2009
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fucker lied under oath = perjury = felon.

had it been one of us, we'd be under the jail.

plutocracy.


msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
Thread Level: 3

Uh, okay

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:58 am on Feb 17, 2009
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The Senate acquitted Clinton on both articles of impeachment, one of which was perjury. In order for a lie under oath to amount to perjury, it must be material to the underlying case. U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled that Clinton's deposition in the Monica Lewinsky case was immaterial to the sexual harassment suit that Paula Jones brought against Clinton.

I take it then that you weren't one of the 61% of Americans who thought the impeachment hearings were total bullshit and that Gingrich should go fuck himself.


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a rose is a rose.......

Author: und67 (5614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:47 am on Feb 17, 2009
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lying under oath is lying. if the question was irrelevant, why was it asked? the legal system is also fucked up.

and i'm proud to be among the 39% of people in this country who still believe in responsibility, accountability, and standards.


msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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The question was irrelevant and still asked because the prosecution's case was built on irrelevance.

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:21 pm on Feb 17, 2009
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The GOP machine built an impeachment case against a president for lying about a sexual affair he had with a White House intern 20 years after the Whitewater real estate controversy that comprised the prosecution's original case. It would be like trying to re-try me for getting jailed for underaged drinking when I was 17 by prosecuting me for lying in court about a speeding ticket when I was 37. That 39% of America you call responsible and accountable was anything but that. They wanted a witch hunt, and they wanted to see the witch hunt carried out at all costs--nothing more, nothing less.

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Lying under oath is lying. No way around that.

Author: JacksSmirkingRevenge (21148 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:51 am on Feb 17, 2009
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But only certain types of lying amount to criminal offenses.

Is the issue that Clinton lied? What President hasn't?


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Bingo.

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:23 pm on Feb 17, 2009
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Clinton lied about Monica, and I think we can all concede that. But people who throw around terms like "perjury" and "felon" are just hyper-polarized old farts who don't know what they're talking about.

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Re: Bingo.

Author: und67 (5614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:47 pm on Feb 17, 2009
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technical legal definition of perjury:

Perjury is the "willful and corrupt taking of a false oath in regard to a material matter in a judicial proceeding." It is sometimes called "lying under oath;" that is, deliberately telling a lie in a courtroom proceeding after having taken an oath to tell the truth. It is important that the false statement be material to the case at hand—that it could affect the outcome of the case. It is not considered perjury, for example, to lie about your age, unless your age is a key factor in proving the case.

Perjury can be used as a threat. Although it is a very serious crime under state and Federal laws, and while prosecutors often threaten prosecution, the number of actual prosecutions for perjury is tiny.

Perjury prosecutions stemming from civil lawsuits are particularly rare. This is because it is difficult to prove that someone is intentionally misstating a material fact, rather than simply testifying honestly from faulty memory.

so, ok, you're right about relevance (material matter). conceded.

but you're completely wrong about hyper-polarized old farts who don't know what they're talking about.


msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
Thread Level: 3

When it comes right down to it

Author: Hibakusha (3412 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:19 pm on Feb 16, 2009
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he may have been the cleanest president we've had in decades. Anyone else have the scrutiny he did? What did they find? He ;ied about a blow job?

And FWIW, I think Clinton was a shitty president.


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Author: Hibakusha (3412 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:20 pm on Feb 16, 2009
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Though I agree with your assessment

Author: jimbasil (40990 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:42 pm on Feb 16, 2009
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about his ego, by avoiding any real answer, his answer was more of a comparison to Dubya's incapability to see past his yes-men and see that there might be a really large problem brewing during his watch. That said, Clinton was part of the problem in so much as he kept Greenspan's stupidity around and took advice from him making policy which was faulty that perpetuated the policies of the two former presidents.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I realize what he as doing, but to accept no responsibility is typical Clinton.....

Author: Domer From Hell (11565 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:51 pm on Feb 16, 2009
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He must have forgot about the Glass-Steagall Act and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act.

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