We've seen FBI fudge affidavit against Trump before. Why won't DOJ unseal it fully?
Why would anyone not use history as their guide in this to conclude that they may be doing the same thing again?
Replies to: We've seen FBI fudge affidavit against Trump before. Why won't DOJ unseal it fully?
DOJ’s filing:
I’m still waiting to see those reports where the FBI fudges affidavits against DJT.
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We’re told “investigations take time”. No one knew about the other issues until after it happened
And it was looked into. I’m sure they learned their lesson and covered it up better. One would hope anyway.
Director Wray orders raid on Trump's house...goes on vacation on FBI jet at expense of taxpayers.
FBI is out of control.
Once again...do a little research before you post...the AG and FBI Director are REQUIRED to use
government aircraft for ALL travel...including "Personal" (e.g. Vacation) trips...plus, as mentioned by another poster...they reimburse the government...from the linked article..
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The Attorney General and the FBI Director are required to reimburse the government for any travel made aboard government aircraft for personal or political reasons.
Other agencies are allowed to designate "required use" travelers on a trip-by-trip basis.
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Link: https://www.thoughtco.com/who-flies-on-the-taxpayers-dime-3321451
As long as he reimbursed the people for his travel, I guess
I’m okay with it.
You?
Is anyone going to yell at him for the damage he is doing to the climate with that jet?
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Apparently "who gives a shit?" is now an acceptable legal defense.
Chris never again gets to argue he's not a total partisan hack.
Well, Baron better come up with the goods that show the FBI fudging
affidavits against Donniedouchebag.
Intentional lie or blatant simpleton? Hmm. FBI lied before on affidavit&dont have benefit of doubt
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You’re inventing again, just like your cult leader.
Misinformation, confusion and obfuscation is your rule.
Release an affidavit to a target which reveals information +/or may compromise one or more CI's?
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Ever heard of redactions?
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Why redact anything? Release the entire thing. Time to know who the informants are.
This is a political prosecution to sway the outcome of two upcoming elections.
If he did something, great. Let's find out about it, and prosecute the man. But when politics is what is driving it, we need to know who the informants are, and how they were placed there. Did the FBI put them their to "wiretap" Trump? The nation deserves to know.
Weren’t you on here cheering for Garland “calling Trumps bluff” about releasing the warrant?
You schmucks all thought Trump would hide and not want things released. Now all of a sudden it’s a good idea not to release the affidavit? Weird, amirite?
Aye, that was me. And General Garland did release the warrant.
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And Trump called his bluff and told them to release everything. Funny how that wasn’t celebrated.
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Does the DOJ ever give Dons early access to witnesses or witness statements?
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No clue, don’t get into DOJ cases in my manufacturing job. I work for a living.
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Hard to be them when their marching orders change daily.
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Leftists prosecutors target individuals, not crimes. Good point. You guys learned well from Stalin.
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If Trump hadn't been such a 'Scally Wag' and taken Top Secret documents, the affidavit wouldn't have
such sensitive information in it and maybe it could be released...as it is...the DOJ needs to protect American security interests and keep it sealed.
BTW, have you any idea why Trump would have such documents in his possession?...also, since it's highly unlikely that he is smart enough to know which TS/SCI documents to take...who gave him the "Shopping List"?...furthermore...who actually took all those docs?...sure wasn't DJT.
Any guess on the 'Over/Under' for the number of books that will be written about this caper?...before and especially after the trial?
Link: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/15/doj-says-trump-mar-a-lago-search-warrant-affidavit-should-stay-sealed.html
Yeah, why won’t the DOJ operate on the timeline set out by the Trump cultists!?
All in good time, Baron.
Maybe release it right before the midterms, with not enough time for it to be debunked until after
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Merrick Garland is a ninja.
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Indeed. Thank god he's not on the Court.
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Sam Alito, Clarence & Ginni, and Justice Brewski should speak out every day til November 8.
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Anyone protesting at Garland's house yet?
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Because they lied to trap Trump in the past. The BidenFBI has no credibility here, and....
...the election is coming. You know, the one that AG Garland was worried with impacting if he proceeded with Hunter Biden's investigation at this time. But here, he is glad to drag it along and impact voting. All appearances suggest that this was their goal.
PS - it is a proper reference to label it "The Biden FBI". That organization is highly politicized now, just like the CDC and NIH, and IRS, etc. You guys are screwing us up pretty badly.
Yes yes yes. Everything is “politicized.” Sure.
I’d point out that the notion that the FBI is a liberal political organization is just asinine, but most sane people already know that.
Chris: "Yes, they lied about Trump in past, even fooled me, but don't assume they'd do it again"
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De ja vu of your posts over the last 6 yrs proven wrong. Did FBI falsify an affidavit already on DT?
Yes or no?
Why haven't you chosen to answer this in any of the previous posts where I have asked you?
Yes or no?
Who gives a shit. And I’m sure you have it wrong, because your sources are shit.
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"Did they falsify information?" Who gives a shit? Awesome.
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Do you still think the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation?
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Come on now Ned, they had all those signatures. It has to be disinformation. They also had all
The channels saying it was. In the exact same words. It has to be true.
He's got no credibility on these issues, but he acts like he does. So weird to watch.
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On these issues? You new here?
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“Your sources are shit”- really? You read liberal rags like WaPo and NYT. Watch CNN and
Probably listen to NPR but his sources are shit? Do you read what you type? Hysterical….
I knew about this from "my sources", and he did not. Kind of a big gap in knowledge on this case.
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Here then. Yes or no?
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Link: https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-lawyer-plead-guilty-falsifying-160600549.html
A guy altered an email to renew a FISA warrant against Paige…
…therefore Trump is probably innocent.
Makes total sense.
Your guy is innocent.
PS-"altering the email" created the false evidence needed to continue spying on Trump& campaign.
and yes, i do use "spying" intentionally as it fits,
They did to Trump campaign worker to maintain FISAthat allowed Trump to be spied upon by association
They didn't care about Paige, they wanted Trump. We all know this.
So Trump was spied upon already because the FBI falsified an affidavit to go after him and his campaign.
Thus, the FBI does not have credibility, and I suppose now you can better understand why it needs to show us all the affidavit in its entirety to be evaluated so that it can be believed. believed.
“They” didn’t do anything. One guy did. It was minor. He got caught.
THEY don’t want to make mistakes like that. THEY are going to be exceptionally careful when investigating the former prez. THEY know everything they do will be picked over by partisan cultists, so THEY damn well dot all Is and cross all Ts.
But I am just wasting my time.
You can’t reason someone out of a position they have not reasoned their way into.
No one did anything wrong. One guy did something wrong. Isolated people did things wrong.
Going out of your way to not blame the group.
This from the Left...who blames groups of people for the actions of individuals all the time.
His affidavit alteration allowed the approval of another FISA warrant. It's HUGE for credibility.
Stop pretending.
And here. Yes or no?
"Ill stop, but can go on. DemFBI illegally spied on Trump via his campaign worker Carter Paige
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Great comedy!
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He complains about my sources, but he doesn't even know this HUGE factor.
Talk about bad sources.
My guess is that you have not read the pleadings. Not sure they are published yet.
Keep in mind that the search warrant was issued as part of a criminal espionage investigation. As much as the media and the public would like to read the affidavit, the DOJ's response opposing the application to unseal the affidavit, articulated in part:
“Even when the public is already aware of the general nature of the investigation, revealing the specific contents of a search warrant affidavit could alter the investigation’s trajectory, reveal ongoing and future investigative efforts, and undermine agents’ ability to collect evidence or obtain truthful testimony,” the 13-page filing states. “In addition to the implications for the investigation, the release of this type of investigative material could have ‘devastating consequences’ for the reputations and rights of individuals whose actions and statements are described.”
This isn't a raid of "general nature". And they were caught falsifying an affidavit on Trump already
FBI attorney Clinesmith admitted to it. he also had a text fully admitting it...but the statute of limitations ran out at Barr dragged his feet and then COVID happened. Also, he was tried in DC which is a get out of jail free card for Dmes. But there is no dispute of the fact that the FBI did this.
This fact takes away the normal trust that can be given to the FBI, They are hiding something against trump until proven otherwise. esp given the broad range of materials seized and the fact that Trump was cooperating with them and had complied with a simple subpoena in the past.
Oh they have, have they? How about you produce some of those facts.
But you can’t because you’re making it up - Mr. fudging the truth man.
It’s people like you who really divide this country.
17 significant errors and omissions during the FISA warrants. A polite way of saying lies.
Which part of “We've seen FBI fudge affidavit against Trump before. ”
did you not understand?
Which part of FBI fudged FISA warrants. They omitted stuff when getting these warrants.
Go back and freshen up your memory on this. You asked I answered.
It’s odd that you and your brethren here never read your links.
“We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions" to launch the initial investigation in the Summer of 2016.
While the report's findings may undercut President Trump's assertions that his campaign was spied on and was the victim of a "witch hunt," the criticisms of the FBI will no doubt continue the ongoing fight over the politically charged investigation.”
You think if Trump wasn’t the intended target they might have told him he had a spy on his campaign
some point.
I didn’t say anything about political bias. Im saying they made significant errors and omissions
during the process per IG report. Serious issues on how the FBI handled this. A high profile case like this I wouldn’t think that many mistakes would be made.I followed this closely and my opinion is some was intentional. You can determine what you think.
Plus FBI attorney Clinesmith was caught changing an affidavit and putting in false info to get FISA
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Link it!
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Look below a couple spots.
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That’s Carter Page. I’m looking to see all the Trump fudging that happened.
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A case of this magnitude I would find it hard to believe all these mistakes were accidental. Just
my opinion.
Here you go. Can't believe you didn't know this.
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Link: https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-lawyer-plead-guilty-falsifying-160600549.html
Don’t waste your time with Jim. Carter Paige is who they wanted all along.
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Ah, you meant Carter Page not DJT. you confused them - understandable seeing
they’re both POTUS #45.