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US troops to defend Taiwan: Biden pledges while his handlers walk it back 4 times. Some questions...

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:15 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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DOD:

1) Is the DOD following the President? In other words, have they been ordered by the President to prepare for this? If not ordered, are they preparing because of his public statements?

2) Or, is the DOD following the White House handlers who say the President doesn't mean what he says?

China & Xi:

1) Is Xi going to start acting as if President Biden has the power to set foreign policy, and is actually doing so?

2) Or, will Xi recognize that Biden is not actually running the country, and the people handling him have not given him the power to change foreign policy, so Xi knows he need not react to Biden's impotent attempt to jettison the Once China Policy, and our policy of strategic ambiguity?


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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Thread Level: 2

I guess Taiwan is give the big guy a bigger cut...

Author: Protagonist (1107 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 11:37 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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His message is for Taiwan, DOD and others' message is for China. Talk is cheap, action speaks. All

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:09 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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signs of actions however are indicating US are going to sacrifice Taiwan, using Taiwan to weaken China, in a similar way that US using Ukraine to weaken Russia. They may gradually move Taiwan semiconductor to Arizona. I hope Taiwanese are smart, don't follow Ukraine. There are many good examples in the world that a small country can fare well between 2 rivalry powers.

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Kudos to our Commander-in-Chief. Let China know we will defend Taiwan.

Author: conorlarkin (21058 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:00 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/19/biden-taiwan-staff-undercutting-messaging/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You avoided the questions.

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:42 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Learn how to frame a proper question.

Author: conorlarkin (21058 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:00 am on Sep 20, 2022
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“Did you see the mustang driven by the teenager getting a handjob by his liberal slut girlfriend speed through the red light?” isn’t really a question because it is loaded with opinions and assertions.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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If only the media would frame a question about it rather than protecting Biden

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:35 am on Sep 20, 2022
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Conor jr. will soon have some place to wear his new camos. You know, the ones

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:58 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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you bought for the Ukraine draft you were promoting so hard

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Biden thinks Taiwan is a Chinese restaurant in Merced

Author: LanceManion (7958 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:48 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Answers

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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The DOD trains and plans constantly for pretty much all imaginable contingencies. And war with China has been the most imaginable of contingencies for about two decades.

There are no “handlers.” Using that term makes you sound like an ignoramus.

Your China questions only solidify that impression.


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Looked like you avoided answering. But, perhaps your answer is that they are ignoring Biden.

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:14 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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I know the military has contingencies for everything, from global warming to global cooling to alien invasion. I knew that when I asked the question.

But, changing our Taiwan policy and committing to putting troops there in the event of conflict is a bit different. It is like changing our Two War Doctrine, and it should cause the military to start making preparations so that they can begin deployments there quickly. At a minimum, I'd think they would update those contingencies. So, my questions stand:

Are the US military and Xi treating this like a change in doctrine? Or, are they ignoring Biden's statements?

If they are doing nothing, as you imply, then I guess that means they are going with option 2, and ignoring the president's supposed change in policy.

I am curious why you think a change in policy like that would have zero effect on our military and on China. If it has no effect, then it is no big deal that he changed it. Is that your position?


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Only in a controlled, biased echo chamber would such a clear conclusion look stupid…..

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:04 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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…..and that’s because those in your circle are expected to tow the line. Any who see it otherwise we’re weeded out a long time ago.

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Just my opinion but Greenland is easier. How did I get that idea?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Buying land is certainly easier than defending a distant country from invasion. On that, we agree.

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:22 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yep Greenland wanted to be bought. What idiot thought so?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:52 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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I don't know. Got a link? Why are we talking about Greenland again?

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:38 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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The unelected lifers are now running our country, not Biden. It used to be that those

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:40 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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lifers would give recommendations, and the president would take it under advisement and usually agree, but not always. And the advice was never carried out without the president signing off on it. Now, under Biden, if he says something contrary to what they want, they simply overrule him and tell the press “what he really meant”. In this case, Biden said what he meant 4 times……4 times…..and they are still overruling him.

It is also possible that Obama is still running things as a shadow decision-maker given Biden’s incompetence and dementia. Either way, it is clearly NOT Biden.

There is NO WAY that Trump would allow himself to be overruled by unelected twits. THIS situation we have now is actually a real example of a “threat to democracy”.


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Ahh! It’s the JUNIOR people - the “lifers” - who are making the policy now! Of course!

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:56 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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The President is in charge, dopes.

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My money is on Obama, but yes. Biden is NOT in charge, or they wouldn’t dare overrule his statements

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:58 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Response below - wrong spot.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:01 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Also - Trump’s people “clarified” his comments all the time.

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:57 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Not like this at all. Biden made his clear statement at least 4 times, if not more……Trump would

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:05 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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have any such insubordinate fired.

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Let’s repeat: Trump’s people clarified his statements all the time

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:47 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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It was constant.

Your selective memory is amazing.


Link: https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/trump-clarification-syndrome

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They didn't ever reclarify same thing repeatedly as has happened with Biden. 4+ times now.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:34 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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You know this is different. I don't know why I bother. Spin away. I have made my point, and it's indisputable: no way that guy is in charge.

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When proven wrong, just make things up and restate.

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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You wonder why it’s so hard to reason with Trumpies.

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Whatabout Trump?

Author: NedoftheHill (44727 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:19 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Ha! Who brought up Trump? Me?

Author: Chris94 (36784 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:30 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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I'm thinking that Ned is in need of a "Handler"...can't seem to follow simple thread posts that are

Author: TyroneIrish (20626 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:34 am on Sep 20, 2022
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right in front of him...sad, but not all that surprising.

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Indeed.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:33 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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They only became Twits after they were fired. Mad Dog was the best until he wasn’t right.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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I want DeSantis, but I absolute want the man elected calling the shots, not an unelected bureaucrat.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60108 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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Joe is followed around by guys with pooper scoopers to clean up his verbal messes.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 5:27 pm on Sep 19, 2022
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