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Nord Stream sabotage-of those who would benefit, we have incriminating evidence against one now

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Thanks to lmmcdonald for digging this up.

And for Chris……this is even a liberal MSM source that you normally take as gospel. So please spare us the “dark web” source deflection. And for him and the rest of the knee jerk lib defenders, don’t bother posting if you don’t even have the guts to watch the video.

Hard evidence trumps all. Lacking that, of the list of suspects, Biden seems by far the most likely. He even relished his threat.

This sabotage threatened our NATO allies and the world, it damaged Climate Change efforts Biden just spent trillions on (assuming they could make any difference wink wink), and it could make the entire world suffer.

Trump nor DeSantis would never act so recklessly. Biden better be able to clear himself. This statement brings suspicion against our country to a new level.


Link: https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1490792461979078662?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1490792461979078662%7Ctwgr%5Eb698e349f6ab14ea476cba68a5f56a9459e62081%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.informationliberation.com%2F%3Fid%3D63

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You sound like a full fledged nut job.

Author: conorlarkin (21015 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:10 am on Sep 29, 2022
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Given that Ukraine has the clear momentum in the war, and given that Putin is the player backed into a corner looking for leverage, does it make sense that US black ops conducted the sabotage to punish our NATO Allies (“for not ponying up enough quid in war effort”) or does it make more sense that Putin seeks leverage playing from a weak hand?

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Because I believe what Biden specifically said? Or do you think Putin is using Biden’s incompetence

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:42 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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against him?

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IMO, there's a method to his madness...more like a "Provocateur"...he knows it's all nonsense, but

Author: TyroneIrish (20447 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:36 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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it's sure to annoy the rational board members, so he gleefully pumps it out....by design, it will never stop. The enduring question is "WHY?"...not worth wasting time on...just accept it, and provide others with the truth.

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I’m willing to wager on this. I say it was Putin.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:25 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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That statement by Biden does not mean we would take a reckless action that would hurt a NATO ally.

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Ok, so you think Putin is playing on Biden’s incompetent FP threats said publicly?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:44 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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And it was a promise and a threat….more than just a statement.

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You are a reverse indicator. Now we know Biden did it.

Author: Cole (16188 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 12:50 am on Sep 29, 2022
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You have no shame, worse than MSM. Russians are controlling the Zaparhoza nuclear plant. The plant

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:03 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Got shelled. The Ukrainians claim that the Russians were shelling themselves. MSM report Ukrainian's claim as a fact. That's already bad . But now you are worse than propaganda machine.

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Thanks for your input, ass tumor. We’ll contact you if we need more info.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:44 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Asshole, Baltic Sea is NATO's internal sea. Russia can do it, but can't hide it without being caught

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:18 am on Sep 29, 2022
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The explosion site is further from Russia side, closer to Germany, Denmark and Sweden. If Russia want to do it, why not select a site closer to Russia to avoid being caught by NATO monitoring system? At least somewhere in the center of Baltic Sea? Why did it under the eye of Denmark? Denmark, Sweden, Germany... Sweden is especially good at monitoring Russia navy activities on Baltic. Many times Russia submarines were detected by Sweden navy.

They all were watching Russia, but they forgot the enemy came from within this time and the enemy is their so called ally.


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“Farther”!

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:04 am on Sep 29, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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And if there's one thing your good at....it's.....

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 11:00 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
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See, it's not so hard to give a president the benefit of the doubt.

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:58 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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That's the key...cannot imagine this administration going "Rogue" with a stunt like that...and not

Author: TyroneIrish (20447 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:42 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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getting the 100% approval of all the EU countries they worked so hard to join together against Putin...no way...no how...this is "Q-Anon Country" stuff to suggest otherwise...and guess who's pushing it here on this board...none other than "Let's Make Stuff Up", BVZ!

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Didn't you like binary thinking? If not US, must be Russia; if not Russia, must be US...

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:59 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Why not the 3rd country? Clearly Ukraine is much more likely than US, and even more likely than Russia to do this.

Ukraine, if you follow the Ukraine-Russia war closely and objectively, has evolved into terrorist attack. US/NATO trained a lot of Ukrainian special forces.

Of course Ukrainians can't do this alone. They need help, they need partner which I believe is deep state of US including CIA. I am not sure if Biden admin know it or not. I tend to believe at least a few his admin members may know it.


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This is probably the worst administration since Carter. They are idiots.

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 10:45 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Jersey Sucks!
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How much more will we give Ukraine compared to Florida?

Author: Cole (16188 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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The Howitzer Fairy will not be visiting Florida. Remember, everything we are sending

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Is free.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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At last count $65 Billion,

Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Gender studies majors will still get more.

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:18 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Same ratio as Ukrainian flags to US flags in liberals yards this past 4th of July.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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I really hope we did not do this.

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:34 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Warmongers did. Those who want the war to continue eliminated any possibility of negotiation

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:50 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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between EU and Russia. No matter how cold this winter will be, forget about Russia's natural gas, there is no benefit Russia can offer to EU on negotiation table.

I suspect the deep state may get involved. Just think how crazy and evil they are toward Trump. Just think of fabricated dossier, Trump hotel surveillance,spying Carter Page, framing Papadopoulos... These people certainly are capable of doing this sabotage pipeline thing. Just watch how many warmongers cheer for attacking the Nord stream these days.


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Either Biden did it, or Russia is exploiting his incompetence in FP using his idiotic smug threat

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Either way, we need a better leader.

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Let's hope it is the latter. This seems like an attack on NATO.

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:55 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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This is the first time in this whole war when I thought to myself...oh fuck.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Reminds me of Biden’s bragging about splitting the BBB bill after passage that pissed off Manchin.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:00 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Utterly unfit regardless of which answer it is, though I agree, I hope it wasn’t us. But none who saw that clip would have to bet on us assisting in the process (and Chris said the “smart money” was on Russia which really worries me given his track record).

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[Deleted. I can't find the post to support what I said. Could have been edited; maybe not.]

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:06 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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WH messaging via media was inconsistent early on. Poor guy. Wish Joe was smart like his money.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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He does seem to be a bit more hawkish than his handlers want him to be. See, e.g., Taiwan.

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:16 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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We have been told “words matter”. But I’m sure Joe didn’t really mean what he said.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:40 pm on Sep 28, 2022
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It was “Joe being Joe”. Or maybe he sent Corn Pop to do this.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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