Well, not in so many words :)
Hue Jackson wants to see DeShone Kizer learn a sophisticated offense
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 13, 2017, 6:12 AM EDT
AP
NFL coaches often say rookie quarterbacks have a lot to learn after playing in college offenses, and Browns coach Hue Jackson is no different in his comments on DeShone Kizer.
“He’s very bright, that’s not an issue,” Jackson said of Kizer after the first rookie practice. “You have to remember he was a young man playing in the shotgun probably 90 percent of the time and had not played under center and had not played really in a sophisticated pro-style offense. He did some really good things today, but you have to do it again and again and again. The consistency of playing quarterback in the National Football League at a high level is a challenge. We will see if we can get him there. Today is just the first day.”
Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly might disagree that the offense he ran wasn’t sophisticated, but Kelly made similar comments about Kizer before the draft, saying that he still has a lot to learn before he’s ready to be a pro starter.
Link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/13/hue-jackson-wants-to-see-deshone-kizer-learn-a-sophisticated-offense/
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Spread offenses vary in execution, schemes, etc. Some are more run-heavy, some are more pass-heavy, etc. Regardless, though, none of the college spread offenses will have near the extensive playbook that pro-style offenses do.
While Brian Kelly's spread offense more closely resembles a pro-style offense than others (think of it as a simplified K-gun offense, the one that Marv Levy used during the Buffalo Bills Super Bowl appearance runs with Jim Kelly at the helm), it still lacks a sizable chunk of the fundamentals that a pro-style offense uses. That being said, at least QB's who come from his offense have a better understanding of timing passes, as well as downfield passing than most other spread QB's.
I have little doubt that Deshone Kizer will be able to learn those fundamentals in a short time. At least he didn't get suck with a run first mentality, like spread option QB's do.
If anything, what Jackson said could be said of any of the offensive players on a spread offense. Some offensive linemen who were in spread option offenses might not have had any real exposure to zone blocking schemes that a lot of pro offenses use. Many a wide receiver came out of a spread offense not understanding the full extent of route running, and needed time to learn.
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The same article gets written about every high profile newly drafted QB to convey a message from the team to the QB that no matter what kind of offense was run in college the pro game is at a completely different level "more sophisticated" so the process of learning the trade has really just begun.
The folks who do analytics on prospective pro QBs always complain about college teams using the shotgun to spread out Ds to create mismatches that don't happen with pros covering pros Other issues for them are that pro offenses use step drops (like 7 step drop) and timing patterns. The drop concept means a QB has to get the footwork correct and the initial read as they will have their back to the D after the snap - to be effective on every play this has to become second nature by film analysis, experience and lots of reps. Pros can build an O around timing patterns on the premise that receivers will execute with precision. Unlike a college coach who wants to do this pro teams generally speaking don't have to develop receivers and then start over as "forced retirement" annual wipes out their most most experienced players. Besides all this think the nature of the games is different - in college game plans focus on mismatches whereas the pro game is more about constant adjustments which makes ever improving knowledge and skills beyond a decent performance level critical (sort of a "life time learner").
than a lot of the offenses we see these days. The article said none of them are very much like pro offenses, but Kelly's is one of the higher thought of ones. Who the hell knows? More on execution than anything else IMO.
Make them stop!
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I can recall when Bobby Bowden would recruit Quarterbacks, his big selling point was that Florida State ran a "sophisticated Pro-Style" offense. How did that work out for Florida State quarterbacks in the NFL. It all boils down to the talent of the quarterback. If you have the skill set to play in the NFL, it makes no real difference what offense you ran in college. The NFL will find you and you will be given a shot.
Hugh Jackson, just like that Tomlin from Pittsburgh are in over their head as head coach`s. Both guys have no business head coaching in the NFL. Tomlin, was just fortunate early on to have keen coordinators early on. Look at how that defense has dropped so significantly these past few years for Pittsburgh. Jackson`s just a place holder on that Browns club...
No kidding
That was my take. That no college offense is as sophisticated as an NFL offense.
Hugh Jackson. Give me a break.
Maybe Van Gorder should be running the offense. He will "sophisticate" it.
is sophisticated offences the answer or is execution the answer.
probably a little of both but more execution is better.
Ala Vince Lombardi
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