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He doesn’t get enough respect from too many around here. For a portion of his ND career, the University had almost no commitment to the program. I remember reading a story back when ND was still in the Big East that said ND’s basketball budget was barely one-third that of Marquette. The U picked up with the commitment since then, and Brey has show pretty good results. He had back-to-back elite 8s with nowhere near the players that routinely run through the top programs. He won an ACC championship in a season in which Duke won the NC. I give him a mulligan this year due to injuries. To be “excellent” he’s going to have to produce in the next few years. He’s getting better recruits. He may turn out to be a guy who can overachieve with lesser talent, but can’t manage great talent. We’ll see.
at all. I would call MB very good and very steady but not excellent. In 18 years he has not moved the needle too high or too low with the only exception that I recall is getting to the NIT Champ. game many years ago. The program appears clean, players graduate and every so often he drops one into the NBA. All of that is very good. He is not noted as a very good tournament coach and elite recruits rarely ask to sniff the program.
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Right you are. He is a good coach, but not a great one.
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programs overachieve with far less of an investment and coaches who fly far more under the radar than Brey. Again,
I love the guy and he's very good at what he does----but not great.
Just seven years ago, Marquette was outspending ND $10 million to $4 million a year on basketball. I don’t know the current numbers, but I’ve been told ND’s investment has improved. Brey was hired to do more with less. He did. Since he’s been getting more to work with he’s been advancing the program. It takes time. What he does in the next few years will determine his legacy. The year was a mulligan as far as I’m concerned.
Link: http://archive.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/134133158.html
an aggressive recruiter. As such, many of his teams seemed to be circling the drain. Many of his teams consisted of one top-notch player surrounded by
a few complimentary players. Of late, recruiting has turned around such that there have been more tourney appearances--NCAA and NIT..
As well as with on-court success. And investment takes time to translate to results. In the last seven years, since the linked article, Brey has advanced the program. Two elite 8s. An ACC championship. And much better recruiting. Brey did well so far at ND with the cards dealt him. Let’s see how he plays with a better deal.
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first two NCAA games at home, if you are one of the top 8 I believe. That is a joke. No one and dones in women's basketball. We get the top recruits in women's basketball because education is still a priority since they are not leaving after one year. Please, apples and oranges. How can you not see or notice this?
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There's 6/8 teams in women's basketball. Gimme a break with your preposterous comparisons. You have not a clue in this world. The disparity between males and females in a sport like basketball is incalculable. And, no, they don't execute the fundamentals better. In any women's basketball game, be it for the NC or something less significant, I can count on a host of uncontested, blown lay-ups, mysterious airballs off by a foot or more, girls randomly tripping over their own feet when they shuffle incorrectly, mysterious injuries when their hips or knees give out because they aren't remotely designed for this sort of thing, a few atrociously bad passes that would draw howls even in your local tavern league and so forth.
It's a joke to even compare the two.
Ask the men who practice against ND's women every night.
Apparently your disdain for the women's game -- perhaps for women in general -- has kept you from actually watching many of the games.
Have you ever played against women's college b-ball players? If anyone on the men's team implies that women's players can hang with even good HS boy's teams, they're being nice. The disparities in speed, strength, reflexes, coordination and skill level are massive. A good boy's HS team could rip the ball away from them, swat shots and muscle them off the court with great regularity. I'm sorry to be the voice of reality amongst the fairy tales here.
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The world of women's basketball is a tad different than Men's.
There are few men teams in the top 30 that have worse facilities for basketball than ND which doesn't exactly send a strong message of commitment to our recruits. They practice in a gym that is rightfully called "The Pit" and not with affection. Brey was promised new facilties when he took the job 18 years ago and he has yet to see them.
I think have a better over all playoff record. To the point of this BBall discussion on the FB board, how does Muffit do it in the same “pit”?
Your ignorance there isn't so palpable.
Anyone who makes a statement like "how does Muffit do it in the same “pit”?" (you can 't even spell her name right) clearly is a huge moron when it comes to college basketball.
accomplished more inside the so called “Pit” that you claim is a hindrance to Coaching and recruiting at ND. I would like to believe it’s more on the academic side n the men’s b-ball but that line has worn very thin. “Excellent”, no. Good yes..... it’s a poor carpenter that blames his tools so stop with the moronic excuses .
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with you don't have to play against one and done talent in womens' hoop because very few are. What is it with these numbskulls!!! And yes congratulations to the team, I am very happy for them.
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