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OT but Jenkins covering up Columbus murals? What about the inquisition and crusades? Total PC BS

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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This belongs in the Open Forum

Author: Mark (865 Posts - Joined: Jul 23, 2015)

Posted at 2:14 pm on Jan 22, 2019
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The Crusades were wars of liberation and self-defense. Don't get your history from tv cartoons, ok?

Author: murph78 (1930 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:06 am on Jan 22, 2019
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Jenkins pussed out again, just like when he invited the most aggressively pro-abort president in history, Obama, to speak to us. Obama couldn't keep the shit-eating grin off his face the whole day, chortling at how stupid ND was. It was really fun to watch. As for the murals, did they also include pictures of Native American human sacrifice? How about Native American genocidal warfare? Or just some poses that some people claimed to find offensive?

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Murph

Author: eftg1 (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 19, 2012)

Posted at 9:15 am on Jan 22, 2019
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If you have a business, you didn't build it... Obama.... Complete failure for 8 years....

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Re: OT but Jenkins covering up Columbus murals? What about the inquisition and crusades? Total PC BS

Author: NDSoxfan (4359 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:51 am on Jan 22, 2019
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Let he who is without sin...

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I prefer “go and sin no more” at least for some Bishops as well

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:34 am on Jan 22, 2019
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if people don’t like, quit giving money to the school.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:31 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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They are. Alum contributions down to 42%.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33501 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:53 am on Jan 22, 2019
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Alum ticket sales sales dropping also.

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:04 am on Jan 22, 2019
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By this logic they should ban Mein Kampf from the library.

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 9:43 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Or cover up the Nazi murals!

Author: Napoleon (5421 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 9:56 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Isn’t this the football board?

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I’m ok with him covering an Urban Meyer mural, but I would draw the line at Luke Fickle......

Author: BaronVonZemo (60123 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:21 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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......first, it’s just mean to pick on a guy with that name. Hasn’t he suffered enough already?
Second, I think Jenkins should be considerate for the safety of the indigenous population of Ohio since couch burning always seems like a smart way to express frustration after a couple of 24 oz Nattiy’s, but they can actually be kind of dangerous.


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Jenkins' statement is 100% historically accurate

Author: knuterockne13 (3842 Posts - Joined: Jan 12, 2009)

Posted at 7:21 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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“Whatever else Columbus’s arrival brought, for these peoples it led to exploitation, expropriation of land, repression of vibrant cultures, enslavement, and new diseases causing epidemics that killed millions,”

There is nothing inaccurate in this sentence. Straightforward fact.

Anyone who has studied history knows that Christopher Columbus was a genocidal maniac. This is not opinion This is historical fact. So why is this a big deal? Why would anyone get upset by getting rid of a picture of a dickhead? Nothing about the story of Columbus aligns with the mission/message of Christ. Zilch. And we're supposed to be upset by this? Talk about a "non-story." Jimmy cracked corn.


“I wonder how many people I’ve looked at all my life and never seen.”
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Did you know that they took syphilis back to Europe?

Author: iairishcheeks (27325 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:44 am on Jan 22, 2019
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I don't agree with the characterization of Pre-Columbian America as some utopia that would have continued to be a utopia if Columbus hadn't have "discovered" it (vikings were here first, aside from the natives that actually discovered it). The natives slaughtered each other as well and fought over territory and natural resources. But, Notre Dame as a Catholic institution should honor traditional christian heroes over people like Columbus who did do some awful, unchristian things. I don't really have a problem with covering the mural, as long as the history books and history teaching remain complete and accurate.

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Jenkins' statement is not 100% historically accurate

Author: Hank the Tank (9413 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:00 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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look up on google Columbus's log for his first trip if you want acracy. Columbus had nothing but praise for the indigenous peoples. It was on the second trip that he saw them in a different way because he left shipmates on the islands and turned up all dead. Read the logs yourself.

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OT: can someone tell me what a "vibrant culture" is?

Author: humbaba (1208 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:42 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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And conversely, what is a non-vibrant one?

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Re: Jenkins' statement is 100% historically accurate

Author: garryowen (3515 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 8:11 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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PC nonsense. If you want to historically accurate, then let’s include the Native American practices of human sacrifice, cannibalism, and wars of conquest.

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Well then let's cover their mural too.

Author: Rooster (2970 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:11 am on Jan 22, 2019
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Re: Jenkins' statement is 100% historically accurate

Author: NDSoxfan (4359 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Good for you Gary. Very non PC but true

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I was waiting for Ripper to mention Virgin sacrifice but he let me down again

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:26 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Well couldn’t you make the same statement about the Pope and Catholic Church? The difference?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:37 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Posted the same about the Crusades in the Open...didn't see your post until just now. Agree 100%

Author: NedoftheHill (44729 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:04 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Native Americans: Fighting terrorism since 1492

Author: pvm71 (793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:22 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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But they ( the Church) will just punish pedafile priests with prayers.

Author: whatsamataU (25140 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:11 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Long overdue.

Author: 565 Zahm Hall (373 Posts - Joined: Sep 2, 2017)

Posted at 5:56 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Re: OT but Jenkins covering up Columbus murals? What about the inquisition and crusades? Total PC BS

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 4:32 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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The Columbus murals will be replaced by murals of Custer's Last Stand--scalpings and mutilations included.

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I believe Armstrong Custer was a Methodist

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:27 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Don’t be surprised if Jenks has an open discussion about The Lep and “Fighting Irish”

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Posted at 4:09 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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I posted about this before. They let the students vote on it (supposedly). That's garbage.

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:57 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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WTF, would you let the current classes make the decision? Those murals belong to the entire alumni base. Any vote excluding the Alumni is BS. If they do get removed, i sure hope they are preserved. Maybe future classes with more sense could bring them back.

I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
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It’s hypocritical that the Church loved that Spain converted the new world and takes their money

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Without Spain the new world would be all Protestant it was fine for centuries but now that there is.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:15 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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The membership in the Catholic Church in name only let’s throw them under the bus after they built the multitude. Let the church donate all the church’s and land back to the idegenious people to cleanse their souls.

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So we have those assholes to blame for this mess...

Author: ripperduck (3083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:32 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Pope couldn't have promoted his pedo boyfriend to the Vatican Curia if catholics hadn't donated the money. Motherfuckin Spainiards should have stayed home and not pillaged the new world...

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Yep the real benefit to the world were the Nuns who basically worked for nothing

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:36 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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The convents and orphanages in Ireland would like a word with you

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:37 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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I understand there are horror stories but I had Nuns who had classrooms with 80 children

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:48 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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And you didn’t mess with them and we we taught and they made squat.

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Agreement there. There's good and bad

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:01 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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You don't English good.

Author: StreetFightingIrish (1748 Posts - Joined: Dec 15, 2010)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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If you're not growin' you're dyin'.
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Wow you missed the whole point but you would, debate the point or get lost

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:22 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Fine.

Author: StreetFightingIrish (1748 Posts - Joined: Dec 15, 2010)

Posted at 5:26 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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What would MLK do?

If you're not growin' you're dyin'.
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It's protection for the delicate sensibilities of snowflakes and NPCs everywhere

Author: humbaba (1208 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:54 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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and that's all ND really wants -- to protect the children, be they chronological or emotional.

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Humbaba

Author: eftg1 (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 19, 2012)

Posted at 10:49 pm on Jan 21, 2019
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Yup...the give up generation that is selectively offended......

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