J. McKinley charged w/ 2 counts of battery and 1ct. illegal consumption of alcohol (he is 20).

Author: ghostwriter (1825 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 6:33 pm on Feb 11, 2019

According to south bend sports talk radio (Eric Hansen). Misdemeanor offenses.

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WR needed. Bring on Eric Kumah ...

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Feb 12, 2019

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I'd love to have Kumah at ND, if there is room.

Author: Napoleon (2644 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 11:35 am on Feb 17, 2019

That kid has some skills.

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there's room and hes visiting the 23rd & 24th

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:49 pm on Feb 20, 2019

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Other than some rain, not a bad weekend to visit

Author: Irish_Demon (1340 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:03 pm on Feb 21, 2019

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Has NDN blamed Kelly yet....LOL

Author: cubsfanin16 (657 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Feb 12, 2019

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He should have run.

Author: jimbasil (33006 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Feb 12, 2019

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Funny! Wasn’t he passed out in the cab to start with?

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:14 pm on Feb 12, 2019

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2 Class A misdemeanors. Not good.

Author: Aragoto (1851 Posts - Joined: May 14, 2018)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Feb 12, 2019

Could be plead down, sure. But they were trying to walk him to his dorm and charge him with nothing and he slugs them.

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No public intox? No drunk and disorderly? No

Author: faircatchcorby (5867 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 11:05 pm on Feb 11, 2019

pissin or poopin in a squad car? Did the female cop outrun him? Color blind and did not recognize blue and red flashing strobes? Carrying a lousy fake id? Poop in his girlfriend’s laundry basket?

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He's a backup he's gone...a notable starter might survive this

Author: beefy78 (1636 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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I'm torn on this

Author: Mark (302 Posts - Joined: Jul 23, 2015)

Posted at 1:38 pm on Feb 12, 2019

He's a 20-year old college kid who went drinking. Most 20-year old college kids go drinking. He had too much to drink; again, it's not like he's the only 20-year old kid to drink too much. From what we can tell from the articles and police reports, he was sufficiently drunk that he didn't even know where he was, then he punched the ND security officers. Usually, the University bends over backwards to keep ND students away from the South Bend police, so I imagine he was in pretty bad shape. I wonder if he threw hard punches or if he was so drunk he had nothing on them (he's big enough he could do some damage if he wanted to and was functional), but in his drunken state I'm certain he wasn't thinking clearly.

He screwed up, but does the football team, and the University, want to wreck his whole life over it? Assuming there is no pattern here with him, I'd lean toward getting him counselling, enrolling him in AA, and making him commit to community service, but I'd try not to kick him off the team or out of the University if I could help it. It seems to me it would be easier to show him some mercy than it would be if a starting player were involved. Of course, he would get no more chances.

Maybe I'm too soft, but the bottom line, to me, is that he's a kid who screwed up. If he agrees that this is a teaching moment, I'd give him one more chance.


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I can live with that and giving him a second chance. If there isn't anything additional.

Author: ucandoit (2479 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:53 pm on Feb 12, 2019

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There has never been "star" treatment at ND

Author: D2 (5824 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:00 pm on Feb 12, 2019

He may leave on his own because of what his "penalty" might be but he isn't going to get kicked out. If this is his 1st offense, he isn't going to be forced out. He might have a few game suspension.

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Yeah....Brandon Tiassum and Kevin Stepherson were treated totally similar.

Author: ND_in_DRO (1771 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 9:17 am on Feb 15, 2019

There is no star treatment in the way the University handles things...but Kelly has recently been quick to cut non-contributors if he can while giving a talented kid like Stepherson way too many chances.

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Perhaps you can explain how they were "treated" differently.

Author: D2 (5824 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:32 am on Feb 15, 2019

Just because Stepherson's foibles were public and we're all aware of them and Tiassum's weren't doesn't mean they were treated differently.

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I wouldn’t say that . After Mikey beat his girlfriend up the pinstripes were sent in to bury it

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:16 pm on Feb 12, 2019

Early.

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Is that some kind of secret code?

Author: D2 (5824 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:31 pm on Feb 12, 2019

who is "Mikey?"

Who are the "pinstripes?"


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Mike Floyd and the hired lawyers

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:12 pm on Feb 15, 2019

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I've never seen a report re: Floyd and girlfriend trouble.

Author: D2 (5824 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:01 pm on Feb 15, 2019

Given that the press has been all over Floyd for his alcohol abuse issues, you would think the press would have reported on this.

Sorry, any set of lawyers couldn't bury a story like that.

Of course, maybe there isn't a story to bury?


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Do you remember back when there was an off campus fight and arrests prior to

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:09 pm on Feb 15, 2019

Mikes senior season. There were a couple of hockey players also involved and a few arrests. Anyway it started when Mike was beating the crap out of his GF and he beat it prior to the police getting there. She caught him him with another lady and he turned on her. She was taken to Memorial (?) hospital and the St Joe county prosecutor was going to go after Mike but lawyers for ND showed and charges by the family were dropped. S Mike played his senior year and went on to the NFL. From a lawyer with the SB prosecutors office and

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This doesn't pass the smell test

Author: D2 (5824 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:52 pm on Feb 15, 2019

Considering the media was all over his DUIs well before this alleged incident, the fact that this wasn't reported anywhere makes it your own little invention no matter what your own little mole in South Bend would have you believe. This was also at a time when relationships between ND and local police were particularly bad so if this actually happened it wouldn't have gone unnoticed by the local press nor kept under wraps by the police and prosecutors.

The idea that ND would look the other way or that the S.B. media (which lives for Notre Dame generated drama) wouldn't report one iota about this when, generally speaking, the South Bend cops as well as the prosecutor's office despise most everything ND is sheer fantasy. And then you throw in your make-believe factoid that "lawyers for ND" took care of him makes it even more laughable.

But you keep trying.


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I take it you don’t live in South Bend.

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:13 am on Feb 16, 2019

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I take it you can't back up your fairy tale

Author: D2 (5824 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:43 pm on Feb 16, 2019

I lived in South Bend for 6 years. I have 5 relatives (including 4 that worked within the ND athletic Dept) that went to school in South Bend spanning 4 decades. Our collective knowledge re: ND is pretty broad. Add on our many connections (a few pretty significant including one who was the celebrant at my brother's funeral ...mostly now retired) at ND and some friends who continue to live there (including an attorney who used to work there). I know plenty about how the town works and have heard many stories that don't make the news. As a matter of fact, I mentioned your fairy tale to a good friend of mine who has lived there for most of his adult life and is well informed on in-town stories re: ND. He never heard this one, and he's heard plenty, and he agrees with me that the notion that anything about Michael Floyd at the time would have been kept on the down low by the cops and the media and the prosecutor's office is pretty ludicrous.

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My dad worked and retired there after 19 years prior to his.He was involved with security for 15 of

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:52 pm on Feb 16, 2019

it. Believe what you would like about the place or whatever you don’t want to.

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I'm cool with all that

Author: Mark (302 Posts - Joined: Jul 23, 2015)

Posted at 1:41 pm on Feb 12, 2019

Make him run laps until he drops. Make him volunteer to teach adults how to read. Make him mow the grass in the cemetery. Make him live in Carroll Hall (ugh). Suspend him from playing for 4 games. But don''t kick him off the team or out of the University, because right now he's a kid who needs them more than ever.

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Nope. Being contrite and not punching the two cops might have helped. Remember, ND’s under

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 am on Feb 12, 2019

the microscope as well as McKinley as they see it.

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No.

Author: BaronVonZemo (22701 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:58 am on Feb 12, 2019

Hitting an officer? No. Underaged drinking first offense - yes. The glaring exception is Michael Floyd, and that decision, no matter how it's rationalized, discredited all of the higher standards that we actually do live by. Floyd decision was BS - he should have been suspended. The rationalized that it was his frist offense at ND.

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Probably true.

Author: ND_in_DRO (1771 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 10:43 pm on Feb 11, 2019

Kelly has shown a very short leash lately with players buried on the depth chart and a longer leash with significant contributors (eg, Dex Williams, Coney).

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Re: J. McKinley charged w/ 2 counts of battery and 1ct. illegal consumption of alcohol (he is 20).

Author: Irishize (46 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 9:19 pm on Feb 11, 2019

Welcome to the ND Hall of Shame: Jarvis Edison, Clifford Jefferson, Max Redfield, and Javon McKinley.

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By the numbers:

Author: Rish93 (557 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:08 pm on Feb 11, 2019

How many scholarships are we over the 85 scholarship limit?

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Scholarship Chart,

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 am on Feb 12, 2019

https://www.ndinsider.com/recruiting/scholarships/

Link: https://www.ndinsider.com/recruiting/scholarships/

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Four.

Author: faircatchcorby (5867 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 10:43 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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Darwin!

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:06 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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he be gone

Author: DonMiller (647 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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No worse than Michael Floyd or Tommy Rees—they all played again.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (2058 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:54 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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Rees ran ( sort of) and Mike fell out of the car intoxicated. Neither punched a female cop or even a

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:05 pm on Feb 11, 2019

male cop come to think of it.

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Rees kicked a cop

Author: ND_in_DRO (1771 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 10:41 pm on Feb 11, 2019

I believe Floyd was also charged with assault at least once when he was drunk and disorderly.

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Correct on both but Tommy did run and ran into the side of a cab if remember correctly. Mike put

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:04 am on Feb 12, 2019

his gf in the hospital.

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They were guilty of battery? I didn't remember that.

Author: NedoftheHill (21606 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:54 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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Rees was charged with it initially

Author: ND_in_DRO (1771 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Feb 11, 2019

But charge was dropped. Likely that charge will be dropped here if he pleads guilty to lesser charge.

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Rees kicked a cop when he couldn't out run him. Charges were reduced

Author: ND4EVR (926 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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Well bye bye. ND isn’t in the SEC

Author: CC72 (13761 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 7:12 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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Link to SBT article

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (2058 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Feb 11, 2019
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Dont let the facts get in the way. This thread will soon be locked by someone

Author: ND4EVR (926 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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Why? It looks like we don’t have some of the comments from the post below.

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:02 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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Mike Floyd and the lawyers.

Author: whatsamataU (16298 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:02 pm on Feb 12, 2019

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Bingo

Author: Frankie V (6756 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:29 am on Feb 12, 2019

As long as people keep it to the facts of the situation and not bring in their political BS we won't lock a thread.

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That makes sense. I didn't read all the silly comments.

Author: ND4EVR (926 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:46 pm on Feb 12, 2019

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