Apparently form the article ND admits a very high legacy situation creating s closed shop type culture, Employees kids grab another high amount as well as student athletes.
Will this eventually catch up with us essentially eliminating higher more qualified students?
Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-21/notre-dame-baylor-top-harvard-yale-for-most-legacies-admitted
One of the key unique attributes is the attendance at Notre Dame by members of the same family. It is one of the things that makes Notre Dame Great. Many members of my family have attended and hope some of the grandchildren will!
Plus their endowment is so huge they won't have to charge tuition, it's actually MORE expensive to vet who needs what and how much that it's cheaper to not charge tuition. Harvard is the same.
less a bad journalism trying to make a story. Jumping on the bandwagon instead of digging for facts to write an article worth reading.
On the flip side, you could say that if you have a rich history of putting out quality people and most kids turn out very similar to their parents in terms of standards, ethics, etc.; why would you not bring in a ton of legacies?
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My previous boss was an ND grad who donates moderately.
His son was refused into ND but accepted to Yale and Stanford and Harvard. he went to Yale( and eventually was Student Body President)
I have another close friend who is an ND grad and donates huge sums of money and his son got in with marginal SAT and GPA.
So...money definitely talks
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I don't know whether there are or are not legacy points for applicants (my best information is that there are), but the far bigger problem ND has and is going to have is cost. Tuition, room and board is over $70,000, which will weed out a whole lot more students than would a 2200 SAT requirement. The Ivy League schools tailor their tuition cost to what qualified applicants can afford -- the "rack rate" may be $70,000, but very few pay that. At ND, they don't use that kind of model, and there isn't a whole lot of money handed over for non-athletic scholarships. To me, this is a subject that needs to be addressed.
"bubble" if you will, all you have to do is find obnoxious sums of money that usually lead you to corrupt business models.
CFB has entirely too much money flowing into it and declining interest. Most schools rely on the massive revenue streams this generates. At the same time, you have declining enrollment and a cost too high (nowhere near the return on investment).
This is a disaster waiting to happen. The exposed placement scam is just the tip of the iceberg.
Students pay the university a % of their wages for a specified number of years after graduation. $20,000 salary floor before you pay anything. There is a cap, but I don’t know what it is. Seems very creative.
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High Legacy admissions is a result of high volume of legacy applications.
Trust me, I have personal experience. My dad and two brothers went. None of my three kids got in. I thought one of them merited admission based on his overall record but he was happy where he ended up.
Just being a legacy garners nothing extra these days...
Trying to talk to anyone of significance at ND is harder than talking to your Congressional Rep.
I gave some very specific feedback to ND which, given the nature of the feedback, you would have thought someone would have contacted me to discuss. But my donations over the last 40 plus years aren't enough to warrant anything but (crickets crickets crickets) from them.
Sorry for the vent but it has become a bit of a joke to many people who don't grease their very open palms.
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Funny to hear the talk of legacies. Not seeing it at all in my group...outside of those who make very sizeable donations.
throw cover for the schools that got caught in the scandal. They may have lower legacy rates but will let you in on a rowing scholarship even though you don't know your port from starboard.
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