and gate after he leaves sometime in the future?
First one will be "2 time 12-0 T-Shirts Coach", the Second "didn't get blown out against Georgia" Yay for 2nd Place.
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Statues are for national champions.
False. Daddy Swarbucks is going to build a state of the art, interactive, pigeon- friendly statue.
neighborhood of a championship run, but can't climb that ultimate rung. Iowa doesn't win titles; if we were Iowa, BK would be revered like Fry. But, like tOSU, we win titles -- or at least we used to. John Cooper wouldn't get a statue, right? Neither would/should BK.
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No one will look back at his tenure and think: glory years.
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So unless he wins a championship, I'd say no. However, as much as standards have been dumbed down by the powers that be, it doesn't mean they wouldn't build a statue.
no lore in that. Perhaps my point is that success may not be the sole measure.
A supposed "top" program keeping a coach for 30 years who never won a championship would say more about the program's acceptance of second-tier status and lowered expectations than it would say about a coach being part of its lore. To me, being better than average for a very long time doesn't make a coach worthy of exaltation at a top program--even with these lowered expectations. You have to conquer the mountain sometime to prove that you're elite.
But as I said, there' nothing that says they can't make a statue for better-than-average. And there again we would see strong evidence of lowered expectations.
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In that case, he probably gets an undeserved statue because everyone gets a trophy these days.
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