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The wr list was great. How about LB. goat of nd

Author: murph92675 (1554 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:33 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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Jaylon, Lynch, Crable; Golic, Stonebreaker and Teo.

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:01 pm on Feb 23, 2020
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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DuBose, Minor, Manti, Jaylon & Drue are my favorites

Author: IrishChristopher (738 Posts - Joined: Sep 4, 2016)

Posted at 2:40 am on Feb 23, 2020
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As the game changes so do the requirements for the different positions

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:20 am on Feb 22, 2020
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Jim Lynch was incredible on the 1966 National Championship team... but would never have beaten out Manti or Jaylon in the modern era. Hell... there was no middle linebacker position before the 1950's, when teams played 5 or even 6 defensive linemen.

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Interestingly, I believe that JOK has the 2nd most talent at LB that we have ever had(behind Jaylon)

Author: BaronVonZemo (59944 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:30 am on Feb 21, 2020
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....it remains to be seen if he can repeat and improve on last year’s great performance, but I think that he will as long as he can stay healthy.

None of the other guys mentioned in these lists below can hold a candle to Jaylon Smith or JOK physically. I know that playing LB is more than raw physical gifts, but those gifts do give an advantage as Jaylon already proved (by the way, who is the only LB on people”s lists in this thread who has been named All Pro in the NFL?
Jaylon Smith......AFTER a career ending knee injury with nerve damage). Nick Buonacotti was the only other pro bowler, but nobody listed him though maybe they should have.

Shame on anyone who claims Smith is t the best LB ND has ever had. The other LB’s listed would all acknowledge it as well.


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Kory Minor could definitely "hold a candle" to at least JOK. Jaylon is on a different level.

Author: IrishChristopher (738 Posts - Joined: Sep 4, 2016)

Posted at 2:46 am on Feb 23, 2020
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Crable, Bob Golic, manti and jaylon Smith

Author: DonMiller (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 12:31 am on Feb 21, 2020
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Tatum should be on there. Cobbins was good too.

Author: oldirish (9329 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 6:03 pm on Feb 20, 2020
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Smith, Stonebreaker, Golic.

Author: Frankx (5317 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 3:20 pm on Feb 20, 2020
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Nick Buoniconti (prob better in NFL than college)?

Author: irishone (2066 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:37 pm on Feb 20, 2020
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Re: Nick Buoniconti (prob better in NFL than college)?

Author: Frankbuz (333 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2014)

Posted at 10:55 am on Feb 22, 2020
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Buoniconti played both ways. He was the starting guard with Norb Roy. They were also the captains and starting LB's.

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Crable, Lynch, Jaylon Smith, and Manti Teo

Author: ndunabomber (6475 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:33 am on Feb 20, 2020
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Those four were absolutely amazing over multiple years.

I would have put Michael Stonebreaker in that list, but he wasn't physically the same player he was in 1988, after he shredded his knee (causing him to miss the 1989 season) in that drunken car accident. He ended up with blurred and / or double vision, significantly slower speed, and lost a bit on his reaction time.

Nevertheless, he was still an incredible player for us in 1990, demonstrating the epitome of football smarts, regularly putting himself in the right place at the right time, even with all of the physical limitations.

I still think about how 1989 would have turned out, had Stonebreaker and George "Boo" Williams been able to play for that squad. That would easily have been one the most powerful front seven units in all of college football of all time. I pretty sure, that Craig Erickson wouldn't have had all of that time to heave that completed long bomb to Randall Hill on 3rd and 44 that broke our backs that year.


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Agree with those 4. Larkin was well on his way until an injury late in his career. Lynch was great

Author: THEISMANCARR (17204 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Feb 20, 2020
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and is among that group too. Crable made the hardest hit I ever saw on Charles White in 1979 who to his credit hopped right up. Kinnon Tatum's hit was one of my favorite of all time also.

I also think Ned Bolcar was tremendously underrated and was the surest open field tackler.

How the hell could I forget about Bob Golic? He was awesome.


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Teo, Dubose, Stonebreaker

Author: Fisher01 (6461 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:32 am on Feb 20, 2020
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My list is admittedly not including players who played before I watched.

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All greats; how about Ned Bolcar, Larkin, Stonebreaker and Furjanic

Author: bakedogg (2105 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:14 am on Feb 20, 2020
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That Bolcar hit on special teams...I can still hear it.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:58 am on Feb 21, 2020
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I don't remember the game, but if you were there, you remember it, too.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Furjanic wasn’t special, Bolcar dropped the INT against BC in ‘93, Stonebreaker was great, but

Author: BaronVonZemo (59944 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:20 am on Feb 21, 2020
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Not as good as Smith, Crable, Teo, Golic, or Lynch. Larkin was not an alltime great either.

Bolcar was a good linebacker, but he was a step slow as well.

No offense, but I disagree with your entire list.


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Bolcar did not drop the interception against BC in 1993 Pete Bercich did. Bolcar's career ended

Author: THEISMANCARR (17204 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 12:42 am on Feb 22, 2020
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earlier. Bolcar did have an interception return for a touchdown against Miami in 1989.

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Re: Furjanic wasn’t special, Bolcar dropped the INT against BC in ‘93, Stonebreaker was great, but

Author: b2runn (268 Posts - Joined: Oct 11, 2010)

Posted at 10:25 am on Feb 21, 2020
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That wasn't Bolcar. Pete Bercich dropped that INT in 93

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Wow, quite a crew there

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:49 am on Feb 20, 2020
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1) Jaylon Smith - not close. 2) Crable 3) Teo 4) Bob Golic

Author: BaronVonZemo (59944 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:58 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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Lynch then Crable

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Posted at 9:38 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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I’m going with Jaylon Smith. At his time at ND he

Author: faircatchcorby (9810 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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was unstoppable at times and that was with a shitty position coach in a shitty system. Under Clark Lea, I truly believe he’d have won the Heisman.

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Jaylon had BVG calling defenses and STILL was that great (& single handedly shut down Navy for 3yrs)

Author: BaronVonZemo (59944 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:00 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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Jim Lynch, Bob Golic, Bob Crable

Author: ghostwriter (3524 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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Im going with Jim Lynch, he was terrific, and not far behind, maybe his equal before

Author: cubsfanin16 (5500 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 7:26 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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the auto accident, Michael Stonebreaker....he was still good after the accident but I wouldn't say 1988 good, he was great then..

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Bob Crable or Lynch

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:54 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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1. Manti Teo 2. Jaylon Smith 3. Jim Lynch HM. Michael Stonebreaker

Author: NDavenue (7489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:44 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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Manti teo. My dad would say Jim lynch

Author: murph92675 (1554 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:42 pm on Feb 19, 2020
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Teo, Crable and Golic. Crable is first all time tackles, Golic #2, Teo #3 I think.

Author: john4psu (102 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:25 pm on Feb 21, 2020
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