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Notre Dame Football Retrospective: The Fall Of Lou Holtz

Author: UHND (5001 Posts - Joined: Dec 28, 2012)

Posted at 10:59 am on Apr 27, 2020
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Monk's minions the Ambassador & Saracino killed recruiting...then found a backstabbing Boob.

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 10:46 am on Apr 28, 2020
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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I gave Lou a mulligan back in 1994

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Apr 27, 2020
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The talent was there in 1994, but most of it was either undeveloped, short on experience, or worst of all, injured. The worst hit part of the all, was the offensive line, and even Joe Moore had a hard time putting forth a lineup.

We even lost a couple of budding stars to career ending injuries.

The lineup was rarely the same from week to week, and with any kind of cohesiveness, at least three of those losses (or the tie) would have been sure wins.


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Lou's big mistake in '94 was trying to have an elephant run the option.

Author: ND521 (9410 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 10:49 am on Apr 28, 2020
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The three guys I saw play when they were in HS in PA, Powlus, Zach Frazier, and Jurko that went to

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:09 pm on Apr 28, 2020
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ND never looked that impressive to me. Powlus and Zach also got their stats against a lot of uninspiring competition, and Jurko threw like a sidearm pitcher.

Now the RB’s Watters, Rocket and Shady McCoy who went to Pitt were a completely different story.


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Re: Lou's big mistake in '94 was trying to have an elephant run the option.

Author: domer1122 (45 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:44 pm on Apr 28, 2020
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and.... Lou was pretty high on Powlus in the summer of '93, to the point that it sounded like he was going to start as a freshman. He broke is collarbone the first time in practice of that summer and this opened the door for McDougal to start. If not for that injury, '93 may not have been the year that it was.

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Becton, Zellars, Miller all missed considerable time with injuries and suspension.

Author: Rocket91 (5315 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:53 pm on Apr 27, 2020
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Losing to Michigan the way they did was a killer too. 1994 was a weird season.

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Bob Davie came in 1994 (DC) and wadsworth in 95', think maybe the problem is with those two?

Author: DonMiller (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 12:26 pm on Apr 27, 2020
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I met an Observer sports write when my son was at ND

Author: pvm71 (793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:30 pm on Apr 27, 2020
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We were having a tailgate and we were discussing what a mistake Davie was. The Observer sports writer stated that Davie told the Admin what they wanted to hear, and never pushed back as Malloy was trying his best to de-emphasize the program.

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Wadsworth more so

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Apr 27, 2020
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Bob Davie was more of a willing pawn in that whole mess. Mike Wadsworth was the main architect behind the coup, and wasn't exactly the best of negotiators when it came to watching out for the program. .

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Wadsworth created the culture

Author: DonMiller (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 2:54 pm on Apr 27, 2020
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