Is this our high water mark with Kelly, or just a stepping stone on way up?
To me it comes down to when Book leaves, seeing if Book's success was from being under Kelly or if Kelly's recent success was more tied to having Book (who is 30-4 as a starter and unbeaten at home).
If we are starting over from scratch (seeing Kelly's old type seasons) when Book leaves, sigh..
Replies to: Is this our high water mark with Kelly, or just a stepping stone on way up?
What has his past history at Notre Dame indicated?
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Bet on high mark. The upper e must wear masks. (That you, dumb ass Fr Jenkins)
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Book is a career backup at best, Lawrence is the next John Elway.
It's really the difference.
Book has maximized his talent and Kelly deserves credit for it.
Clemson is just better, especially with Lawrence.
You're missing the point..
Kelly's only run here that meets minimum expectations, started the game that Book replaced Wimbush at QB vs LSU.
So now what happens when Book leaves... do we find out last 3 years were merely fool's gold?
That's about right but I thought Book showed up today, just no one around him did and Rees had
a bad day. Almost all their players are a better than ours so play calling and finishing is key.
Book showed up alright...as a mediocre quarterback
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Clemson gets some credit. They changed how their defense played, and it worked.
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They did. Sold out to stop the running game. Worked nicely.
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It's been a decade dude.
Don't even bother looking at who will start next year. It's not pretty.
Do you think with the talent we got in the previous 10 years that we were as talented
as 8 other good teams those past years. Our recruiting has gotten better but it is still only 8th or 9th this year. And Book plays well but he is never going to be as good as Lawrence or Watson. I thought Book played his heart out with little help from Rees today or the line today or the receivers being able to get open today.
Listen, the offensive talent is bad.
There's no talent at WR, and Book has no vision.
That's a bad mix.
Best TE’s in college football
Start out short and then gradually open up.
And it ends there
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I hear you man, to think this is the guy who will break Rockne's win record.
Just sad.
Hate to see Rockne record broken .
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Any only losers will celebrate it.
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Will be like 2013.
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Gross.
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QB. ND can get enough talent to compete with anybody with an elite QB. 11 yrs in, no sign of it yet.
ND had an elite year from a QB, Kizer, but that was wasted by a refusal of the HC to recognize a terrible mistake in his choice of DC.
Yeah right Kizer has made a real impact as a pro and he had seven opportunities to execute
winning drives in 20116 and never did it.
Disagree. QB talent has been here. BK runs them off or beats em or or coaches the talent out of em.
Danye Crist - 5 Star - BK got him killed
Kizer - 4 star - Only played cause of injury and was the better QB from the beginning. Got hot and BK cooled him off.
Jurko - 4 star - Better athlete, better arm, but too confident, got in the doghouse...BK Ran em off
Now Buchner on tape looks great (don't bother about elite 11 crap) been buoying around 5-star but is BK going to let him play up to his ability or manage him not to make mistakes...Take a guess.
We don’t get top 5-7 QBs ever
We lack elite QBs
That game would have been far closer with 4-5 other Top 10 QBs...
Book is short and won’t play in NFL
We don’t get top 5-7 QBs ever
We lack elite QBs
That game would have been far closer with 4-5 other Top 10 QBs...
Book is short and won’t play in NFL
Kelly’s greatest failure is at the QB position.
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You just watched a game against an elite QB. None of those three were, are or ever will be elite.
I know nothing of Buchner except concerns expressed about his attempt to change his throwing motion showing up after he showed up at some QB camps.
Thank you
Trask, Fields, Jones, the Clemson backup
Easily 5-7 QBs better than Book all of whom would make that score closer
Merry Christmas 🎄 stepping stone for the Meyer makeover
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Foolishness...
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FUCK Urban Meyer! The romance is over.
Notre Dame doesn’t need a lying slut who has repeatedly turned his arrogant back on us.
Ok,but how do you really feel about the Meyer?
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Do Catholics believe in 2nd chance and forgiveness?
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They believe in Purgatory, which is where NDs been for 30 years...
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Then we all need to quit bitching then. Urban Meyer has 5 stars come to him
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Then get you knee pads on....
.....and blow his lying ass
Book was an over achiever but you aren’t winning games like this with him
Unfortunately Kelly still has not fielded a great QB and we are in year 100 (I think).
Junior urban achiever
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Re: Book was an over achiever but you aren’t winning games like this with him
Absolutely NOT....send the blitz and make him make reads and its over!!
My thought, next year is a step back but overall momentum of the program
Is solid. Need a top QB and playmakers (which I am hopeful they addressed this recruiting cycle). I get why people are pissed, but these kids won 16 straight and lost to one of 2 teams that dominate college football recently.
It wasn’t that they lost. It was the way they were completely depantsed and embarrassed.
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Frank my man. We agree about nothing, but this my friend, we are totally on the same page.
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Totally agree.
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Yep, if ND keeps these to 14ish point games then they’ll accidentally win a few
But as soon as something bad happens, they roll over
Roll over like a cheap crack dealer informant.
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He’s under water!
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