All college sports eyes should be on the SCOTUS
there will be a whole slew of schools that will drop out of the "business of athletics" if this ruling goes against their hopes. The scope of the case is deceptive since it will most certainly lead to bolder & bolder demands, and also one has to remember that Title IX will have to be applied applied (people often forget about this and the potential cost which will force many schools to drop sports).
I don't foresee our school, Notre Dame, staying in the number of sports that it presently does in Men and Women's athletics if payment models ensue, and we are one of the rich programs - though not tax payer funded.
Change is coming. I guess we will seee how big that change is going to be.
Link: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31172473/supreme-court-questions-validity-amateurism-ncaa-business-model
Replies to: All college sports eyes should be on the SCOTUS
It's roughly a $10-$15 Billion dollar industry. Anyone who tells you it's about amateurs is a liar.
And they are probably taking home at minimum 6 figures a year from the "amateurs" that are generating all the money.
So we are coming for the athlete and not the brand? Yet our liking a player is based solely on
whether they choose our team and not another.
It’s the gold helmets and school that are the draw. That is what is deserving of most of the money. Anonymous people with football talent are placed in the uniforms each year, and the business lives on. And at ND, the kids are given 75k a year in the form of free tuition with a quality degree and amazing post graduation contact network.
Let’s not pretend that the kids are not being reimbursed, and also let’s not pretend that people would be paying to see any of these athletes perform in football gear outside of the school that they cheer for.
Let's not pretend the schollie money is = to revenue. See below.
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There's a lot to be said where we are able to call NCAA athletes, professionals. They are paid with
an education and a very expensive one at that.
The NCAA has only itself to blame through poor management and greed for cases like these to come along.
Football being a major culprit in this.
The "Power 5 conferences" will do much better than the smaller conferences -
The NCAA has created a fixed price for labor and that isn't fair to the athletes. TV rights and TV productions
with bowl games becoming playoff games and hours and hours of sports broadcasting with big-time advertising dollars
pushing the programming, there's no way athletes shouldn't have financial rewards. But in doing so, they're no longer
amateurs -
It doesn't even remotely come close to the revenue they generate for the school. Not even close.
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112mm/98 = That's $1.142 million per player and only roughly 85 get scholarships
85*35k per year is only 2.97mm annually in scholarship "cost". I'm hardpressed to get even close to saying these guys are "paid" by getting scholarships.
Give them the choice of a fair share of the gross revenue from their sport OR a scholarship. Their choice. The proof in value will be in what they choose.
Link: https://slapthesign.com/2020/02/29/notre-dame-football-comparing-financials/#:~:text=However%2C%20Forbes%20ranks%20Notre%20Dame,%24112%20million%20in%20annual%20revenue.
The athletes will determine if they're paid enough, not the unis...
You may think that an education is too expensive. It may very well be. But, that doesn't mean it's any more valuable than when it was fraction of the price. Many athletes have said their sport mandated activity preceedes their capacity to get a proper education. Harbaugh said that about his time as a Michigan quarterback. The athletes are now organizing in order to strike a far better deal. Some unis ADs will not survive as presently configured. That isn't important because many unis themselves won't survive as presently configured..,
I absolutely agree. The narrative being sold about the "scholarship" is bs and hiding the real $$
being made off these guys.
The NCAA fought against the current TV proliferation.
40 years ago they saw what would happen if conferences started striking their own TV deals. They lost in the SCOTUS.
Don’t blame that issue on the NCAA, it was the conferences that were part of the CFA, followed shortly thereafter by ND’s deal with NBC.
Link: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/468/85/
Ah, you're right - I think of them as one in the same when I shouldn't.
Let's leave it as Conference Greed - team greed.
Podcast and transcript now posted.
Listened to the first half on the drive home. Worth a listen. ACB’s questioning was also interesting, including questions on impact on coaches salaries and women’s sports.
Link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/20-512
Title IX is untenable if athletes are paid-it was not designed for this contingency. many colleges
will bail, and thus I suspect that many young men and women will be without scholarships in the future because their are less programs still playing those sports.
It is also untenable if biological men can play on women’s teams
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I remember reading NCAA v. Oklahoma Board of Regents in Law School
That was the beginning of the end to amateur athletics at the college level.