After hearing all the b.s about Kelly I said Odgeron would get the axe before the year was over. He won a National Championship. With all that talent in the south he should be in the hunt just about every year. Notre Dame has two strikes to start with - academics and not much talent in Indiana High Schools. Don't get me wrong, ND has a lot to offer. But many inner city kids do not have the educational structure needed at home or in the Public School system to make it at Notre Dame. He turned around a program that Davie, Willingham & Wies couldn't. Do I think he should have done better against the top schools not named Alabama or Clemson? Yep. But overall he has brought Notre Dame Football back to one of the best programs in the country. Enjoy what we have. When he's gone it might take a long time to get back to where we are now.
Kelly brought the program back from the disastrous Davie/Willingham/Weis fiasco.
I certainly give him credit for that. By 2012 he had the program back to respectability and the Alabama thrashing could have faded with at least some major post-season victories (and even close losses) over time. Sadly, that hasn't happened.
He loses BCS/playoff games, major bowl game and the ACC championship be over 2 touchdowns at least...and they don't look that close. If he was even 2-3 in those games with some exciting losses, I'd be inclined to agree with you. He's 0-5 with a butt-whipping every single time. (80% in also-ran bowls has virtually zero significance.)
12 years is long enough. Keep him here until death like JoePa because he's better than Boob/Ty/Chuck? They were a low bar. Time for a change. (And change may be worse initially...but eventually perpetual limbo becomes its own pain.)
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certainly not perfect. I wish he'd truly hire the best coordinators and position coaches but every coach will have their flaws as well.
Davie, Willingham and Weis??? We were weak and embarrassing with them. Absolutely embarrassing. Kelly just put a team on the field in the CFP that lacked absolutely nothing in terms of physicality with the NC Alabama.
Give me a break. This year we have looked bad in all but two games we played in. I love the Irish but I’m tired of the BS.
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Certainly not soft. Skill on the perimeter and secondary yes, we were worse. But the other coaches since Holtz had us as a bunch of wusses all over the place.
Also, I've taken it easy on you, Chad. Others haven't. You've gone ultra negative repetitively and I've said nothing. Others have made fun of you. I've refrained because I honestly don't know what's going on in your life. When I've gone to a negative place like you I've always found that my anger and hatred was focused on a place that was not the source. I hope you are well. It's a game. They are kids. And the kids at ND are some of the best kids around. BK is doing as best he can and the kids know it. No point in spreading negativity at them.
Point it in another direction. The ND kids don't deserve it.
that matters. I hold no animosity for the players it’s the leaders of their division. If we hire great personnel that fails to perform I blame their managers. I don’t blame the personnel.
So thank you for worrying about my mental stability. But I don’t tolerate incompetence in myself or managers.
So if you are more sanguine about almost being good enough that is your right.
I’m not made that way. And you would probably never work for me.
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White people don't want to hear or see what is going on in the inner city. I coached a lot of those kids. I picked them up because they have no fathers and their moms are working or don't care enough to be involved. I took them to get their drivers license or to a job interview. Why do you think so many turn to gangs? That is their family. Have you ever heard some of their stories? Only the very driven kids make it out. Their hero's are gangsters and drug dealers. But you already know that because "All Men Are Created Equal".
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Lets stop pretending the only people who are hurting are black people. That is racist in and of itself.
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You don’t think that is racist?