No doubt the ACC Officials will have flags flying against ND tomorrow night - guarantee at least 2
roughing the passer penalties if Armstrong plays!
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That fine pre game Whine…
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Both the officiating and bye weeks for ACC teams before ND creates a broader narrative.
Key Points:
*ACC officiating for ND games has been markedly worse this year. The VT game was atrocious. Late hits and hits out of bounds, etc... I'd stop just short of saying it was blatant and purposeful but it was close.
*ACC scheduled open weeks for 4 of the 5 teams ND played this year. That trend is continuing to worsen and is not coincidental. It is clearly motivated to benefit their teams and to be detrimental to Notre Dame.
*The move of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC has put great pressure on the ACC. It was already far behind the SEC and Big Ten in terms of profitability and it could really, really use Notre Dame to fully join the ACC. The ACC's competitiveness has been down this year which only makes things worse for them.
So, is the bad officiating, scheduling of bye weeks, etc... a way to punish ND for not being a full member? A way for the ACC to incentivize Notre Dame to join the ACC? As in, perhaps all of this would stop if ND joins? An unfair act of desperation by the ACC knowing it will very likely fail but necessary to try anyway?
Who knows. I'm not sure anyone can say with full certainty. But there is more than enough there to make people suspicious and rightfully so.
The fact that it’s Harbaughesque whinery doesn’t mean there isn’t truth to it.
The PAC 8 or later 10 ref calls in SC games over the years has been particularly and legendarily bad. That’s just a fact.
The 2014 FSU call was also utter bullshit, and the ACC refs give ND home cooking all the time.
It happens and we aren’t the only ones who get it. It’s part of the game.
Whine away, it’s what fans do.
Difference is the officiating is a part of a broader narrative with the bye weeks deliberately and
blatantly placed to be detrimental to ND and the ACC badly wanting ND to be a part of it.
No other program and at no other time in the history of ND football has that narrative and situation been going on. It's not so much whining as a statement of fact. Bad officiating happens. All teams get that. But the idea that what is happening to ND right now may be deliberate and systematic as a part of a plan to make it such that ND might join the ACC is not outlandish and dismissing it as nothing more than whining is nonsensical and simple-minded.
Personally, I'm not whining. We've been having our way with the ACC schools and doing it after their bye week only makes it more impressive. So I think they are helping us, thank you.
Don’t you see
How fucking whiney this is? Why other fans hate Notre Dame? Give it up
If it wasn't so obvious, it be easier to give up, BUT
With a few exceptions, ACC refs hate ND......
Yes, that is a little whiney before the game even starts, but it does happen By the way last
night there was a completely egregious call for roughing the passer but I cannot remember if it was the pro game or the college game. It is getting bad. I expect a little bias but we have to overcome it, part of the game.
The bitching starts before kickoff. Laying the foundation for excuses.
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You didn’t change my mind
You’re still a whiney b*tch
Everyone has bad calls made against them; I don’t deny those calls but saying it’s because we’re Notre Dame
Like I said, it’s why people hate Notre Dame.
There's nothing wrong with speaking the truth, when it's the truth..
Officials are human and therefore subject to human error (in a very fast moving sport) and they are also subject to human bias.
In most cases (even our games) bad calls are just bad calls without bias.. most. But when you have the Name Recognition of Notre Dame, the history, tradition, and success all while snubbing your nose at conference affiliation.. it's not hard at all to understand why using the opposing team's conference officials results in a higher than normal amount of biased 'smelling' calls going against us.
If the problem will ever be solved it will be from creating some change by talking about it, not by pretending it doesn't exist. Easiest thing that comes to mind is do away with conference officials and have all officials under one umbrella.
Well said and “it ie bias” exists everywhere, scheduling bye weeks, refs, ESPN and the polls.
ND wasn’t relevant from 1993 - 2012 but that didn’t stop the hate. I for one enjoy it because when mostly everyone is against you it’s easier to circle the wagons.
Go IRISH
Hey "numb nuts" been watching the Irish since the late 60's - you can honestly say that officials
from opposing, conferences make calls that are outrageous? Guess you didn't see the FSU game in 2014 when ND scored the winning TD at the end of the game on a pass to C. Robinson only to have it waived off by some B.S. Off. Pass Inter. on a so-called pick??? Or in 1979 vs USC when they called a TD for Charles White at the end of the game when he was clearly 2 yds short of the goal line, I can keep going jack-off!
The bullshit clipping call on Rocket’s punt return TD stills burns me up.
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Two more egregious ones,
1964 vs USC when Bob Meeker was called for phantom holding, nullifying a TD and nat'l title;...1978, WHEN USC'S' Paul McDonald was credited with an incomplete pass, on a ball clearly fumbled, and behind his back, negating one of Joe Montanas greatest comebacks, rallying the IRISH from a 24-6 deficit to a 25-24 lead with some 40 seconds remaining ..On the former, Ara , who normally didnt complain about such things. spoke out..
Those were two egregious calls where we got screwed, oh yeah there have been a number.
Roughing the passer and pass interference are the most abused.
Good point.
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