self promoter. He didn’t give a shit about ND, its history or players. He was the definition of mediocrity. I said that for years and took a beating on this board. So this is not a I told you so but some on this board are blinded by their loyalty to ND.
posts about Kelly building a great program and his great recruiting this year. He’s on the verge of winning a national championship. Yet numerous times me and some others reminded you that Kelly couldn’t win the big game and embarrassed his team often.
Now the same people are posting what a pompous ass Kelly is and their glad he’s gone. It can’t be both. Right?
for you. You should learn about that.
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He just went 11-1 in a rebuilding year. Give me a fuckin break. He was better than mediocre, but clearly not great. You Kelly haters are just the opposite side of the Don Miller’s of the board.
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blinded by our university loyalty.
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The players desire that the culture Kelly facilitated not be changed was key to the choice of his successor. His successor promised his players not to change that culture, but to build on it. Kelly's direction on "the right fit" for ND, both athletes and coaches, has manifested as job well done. It was the culture created between himself, his staff and those players that they demanded not be changed. The coaches Kelly hired as good fits for ND chose to stay at ND. Mission accomplished.
The recruiting revival would not be possible without the success on the field Kelly oversaw, including 11-1 in a rebuild year. Now ND is on the verge of recruiting at the level it needs to "get over the hump." Kelly did that.
Whatever he felt, or didn't feel, about ND apparently didn't matter, because he left a foundation that championships can be built on. He was a professional. He did what he was hired for. The ethics of his behavior in ending his tenure, the morality of it, is fair for critique.
In conclusion, you were, are and – judging from this post – will ever be a buffoon.
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You, like Kelly, sound like a pompous ass
I think it's an adverb.
[edit: By the way, I'm told comprehendingly is a perfectly fine adverbial form of comprehending. So there.]
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Wow. I feel sorry for your husband.
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And what do you think of Freeman thusly?
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Freeman.
White House.
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Just kidding, but fyi, when someone has to say, "this is not an I told you so, but....."
........it's an I told you so.
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I say this with the utmost tact…you’re a drama queen. Drama Queens get ass raped on this board without lube
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Why go to the “prison rape” card? Is there something we don’t know about you?
You made me laugh, so no discipline, but clean it up please.
My opinion:. Kelly left the program about 1000% better than he found it, but was probably never going to lead us to a NC. Here's hoping Freeman will, but the lack of head coaching experience is a concern.
Seems like a great guy, upstanding citizen. Wish him the best. But he hasn’t proven a thing yet as a HC. And for more than half the season his defense was terrible. But he turned it around once we got to the Uber soft part of the schedule. The bowl game, whatever it is, will be his first test as well as the teams. We literally have played 7 patsies in a row.
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Ok, I'll see myself out.
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thought Buchner should have started since game 3 or 4. I thought Kelly could win a national championship and admired how he got the most out of his 11/12th ranked recruits and I thought he was responsible for the improved recruiting coming in the next two years. Now I am definitely admitting I was wrong on the last point and that was a critical part to be wrong on. I also admit that my blind hope for him to win a national title, temporarily blinded me to his ego. I think any leader needs an ego but not one that is not real but worked on. On that part I was dead wrong. He got us to a final and two playoffs and maybe a third, I am hoping but I did not think he was yet great because he did not have a title.
I disagreed with the clown show over at NDNation because their hatred for Kelly could be likened to the political environment. It was a litmus test. If you supported Kelly in any way, you were anathema to many. I just don't think there should be litmus tests for anything. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I saw times to attack Kelly...like in '10 when our OL road graders lining up like Run&Shoot OLs despite Kelly claiming he was gonna run it down people's throats. In '13-'14 when our inability to rely on a running game to reduce some responsibility from our QB to win a game. In '16 when I consistently was crushing Van Gorder on this board...especially to a former player who claimed the players were at fault for not getting his schemes.
I also saw times to support him. In general the program is in a dramatically better place today than it was on Dec 6th 2009. Our recruiting is in a good place, our consistency of winning.
ALL THAT SAID, I think everyone realized this was not the guy that was going to win it all. But we were so tired of being burned trying to chase the next big thing and ending up with Davie, Willingham, Weis. We also were tired of listening to people say - We need fire him and pay big $$ to get a guy! But when you asked who, the only names that came up were Saban, Meyer, Carroll, Swinney, Gruden, Harbaugh...guys that were NEVER coming to ND.
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disagree that BK was/is a self promoter.