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What is Accuracy? Let's put this to bed.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 11:53 am on Sep 29, 2022
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There have been many debates about this lately. I believe completion percentage is a key indicator of accuracy and even a sole indicator when looking at a whole game, season or career. Let me explain why I feel this way.

It is true that completion percentage alone isn't the single measurement for accuracy. On-target percentages and catchable percentages are used too.

The numbers below are average numbers across multiple seasons and don't account for any kind of distance.
Russell Wilson - 65% completions, 73% on-target, 79% catchable
Teddy Bridgewater - 67% completions, 74% on-target, 79% catchable
Baker Mayfield - 61% completions, 70% on-target, 76% catchable
Patrick Mahomes - 66% completions, 72% on-target, 78% catchable

What is the trend here? Do you see a pattern? While we don't have this information on Pyne it's reasonable to expect that in order for Pyne to complete 70% of his passes he would need to throw a higher percentage of on-target balls and even higher percentage of catchable balls.

Another source link
https://www.sisdatahub.com/players/5048


Link: https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/quarterback-accuracy-expected-on-target-percentage-baker-mayfield-russell-wilson/

Replies to: What is Accuracy? Let's put this to bed.


Thread Level: 2

Shaquille O’Neal has a lifetime FG% of 58.2%. Doesn’t make him a great shooter. He sucks at

Author: tky21 (2636 Posts - Joined: May 13, 2010)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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shooting. But, by your definition, he’s be an amazing shooter. One of the best shooters ever.

Just like completing what are essentially glorified handoffs doesn’t make you an accurate thrower regardless of whether you complete 100% of them or not.

The accuracy with which an individual is capable of throwing a football and completion percentage are two completely different things.


"Put a Riddell on somebody and be the most physical team in the country until the whistle blows."
Thread Level: 3

This is silly.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 9:59 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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It is a fitting analogy. A high percentage of short shots does not make an individual an amazing

Author: tky21 (2636 Posts - Joined: May 13, 2010)

Posted at 12:25 pm on Sep 30, 2022
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shooter of a basketball just like a high completion percentage on short easy throws or tosses does not make one a super accurate thrower of a football.

Completion percentage and accuracy are two completely different things.


"Put a Riddell on somebody and be the most physical team in the country until the whistle blows."
Thread Level: 5

Not to mention ... teams fouled Shaq on purpose to force him to shoot the ball ...

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 1:56 pm on Sep 30, 2022
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because he was so bad at shooting the ball. This is a very silly comparison.

Thread Level: 5

His dunks actually make this number. Dunks == hand offs (not a passing play). Still silly

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 1:54 pm on Sep 30, 2022
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And the rim isn't moving when you shoot the ball.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 1:50 pm on Sep 30, 2022
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I think the more relevant question is whether Pyne is precise.

Author: LanceManion (7649 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:23 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Interesting choice since the definition includes accuracy and I'd interpret "exactness" to mean

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:38 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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on-target.

Thread Level: 3

You bring up a good point! How bout you figure it out and report back.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 4:36 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Right now. it's relative, he's 1000% more precise than the train wreck that started the season

Author: holybull101 (10458 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:37 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Thread Level: 5

Absolutely right. Correct analysis!

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:30 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Another great point in the #'s: If ball is on-target/catchable and Comp% is low or high, this tells

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 12:15 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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how good or bad the WRs actually are.

A low comp% relative to on-target and catchable means the WRs are not doing their job.

A high comp% relative to on-target and catchable means the WRs are doing more than their job. Making the QB look good.


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Who here can say ND has great WRs?!

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 12:32 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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The NFL... maybe? sort of but not really.

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 12:35 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Great Article. Would be awesome to see a breakdown of NDs last 8 or so QBs. Starters and backups.

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 12:07 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Good article but stats are not everything. Would you rather have Bridgewater or Mahomes as a QB?

Author: irish93 (1742 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 12:19 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Interesting. This is the problem. Assumes you cherry pick the best QB and not play a QB that can

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 12:37 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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win.

BTW... Do you even realize or know what Teddy did in college at Louisville? Only slayed a few giants and put them on the map? Maybe????


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Thread Level: 4

Great question. Pyne or Buchner?

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 12:31 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Thread Level: 5

Better question: Buchner with Pyne's game plan versus Pyne

Author: D2 (7646 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:40 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Why wasn’t Buchner given Pyne’s game plan?

Author: WoodstockIrish (14629 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:01 am on Oct 3, 2022
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If he’s so good?

Thread Level: 6

Pretty sure Buchner can't successfully run what we've seen the last 2 weeks. He's 1 dimensional

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Yep. Wish we’d seen it vs OSU and Marshall.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 1:47 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Fair point

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 12:37 pm on Sep 29, 2022
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Even using Book's minimal NFL numbers the pattern holds true ..

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 11:58 am on Sep 29, 2022
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60% completion, 67% on-target, 89% catchable

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