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BIG NEWS AFOOT...

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Sooooo let's see he is 2.5x the Player of Pyne and about 75% the player that Book was

Link: https://notredame.forums.rivals.com/threads/grad-transfer-qb-sam-hartman-to-notre-dame.183178/

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Thread Level: 2

So I've now watched one game of his and came away impressed

Author: Chrisb (16384 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:21 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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ESPNU replayed Wake @FSU.

My impressions from this one game:
command of the pocket is top notch (better than anyonewe've had since Quinn) and he manipulates the defense with his eyes very well, LOVE! the way he manages mesh point on RPOs (great guy for Buchner to study for a year), very good decision maker, field vision seems excellent (sees check downs, sees guys coming open before they're open instead of after, sees when he has nothing and pulls ball down to get most from play), accurate, very quick release, spreads the ball around well and doesn't lock onto guys, strong arm (not a cannon but can make all the throws, probably a peg below Coan in arm talent, but more consistent), a bit taller than Book and more sturdy not as tall or sturdy as Coan (but not a tree planted in cement either), not as fast as Book but a better overall passer, lateral guickness/escapability not on Books level but better than Pyne and light years above Coan (he's not going to make many free rushers miss and will take sack if no one is open), seems to be a pretty good runner going North/South (not a Buchner or Book runner, but better than Pyne and compared to the Coan Tree again light years.

Only Con on him from this game comes from only bad throw/decision I saw him make (which resulted in 1st down on 3rd and long) ball looked like a potential pick 6 coming out of his hand but WR made great play to go over top of DB. On replay, throw wasn't as bad as it looked because he placed it high over DBs head, but still a dangerous play in a tight game so he may be a little too confident in his arm and willing to throw some risky balls.

Overall I'd call him a bigger better throwing Book, who won't bail us out nearly as often with his feet but isn't an immobile liability either and is probably equal or a little better than Book in most areas.

Again, only based on this one viewing, if we can get him I'd be in favor.


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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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I really hope you got paid for this or can put it on the resume. Seems like a lot of effort for

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 11:30 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Something relatively unimportant unless you’re scouting for someone.

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If Hartman ends up at ND, I'd prefer Kenny Minchey to be his understudy

Author: IrishChristopher (732 Posts - Joined: Sep 4, 2016)

Posted at 6:51 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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I think Buchner's ship at ND has sailed.

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I was only saying that because RPO is supposed to be Buchner's thing

Author: Chrisb (16384 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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but he doesn't manage like what I see from others including Hartman.

And I hope Minchey is great, but I'll wait until I've seen him play on college level before assuming it.


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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Re: If Hartman ends up at ND, I'd prefer Kenny Minchey to be his understudy

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 6:54 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Buchner might need to actually first

Thread Level: 2

This guy can grow a championship level beard.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:17 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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We're the Heisman voters unaware of this guy's facial hair situation?

aka Cletus
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At this point, he’s an upgrade to what ND has at the position. Can’t underestimate the

Author: jray (3327 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:40 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Starting QB experience and will have a better team around him. I like it.

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I think its good. Hes 6'1" so you don't get 4 passes a game batted down.

Author: OklahomaIrishman (2907 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:18 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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He can see the field and knows how to hit open receivers. Huge upgrade. Hope it happens.

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Re: I think its good. Hes 6'1" so you don't get 4 passes a game batted down.

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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He's 6' just like Book

Thread Level: 3

Re: At this point, he’s an upgrade to what ND has at the position. Can’t underestimate the

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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I agree he upgrades the room but hopefully he starts playing like the experienced QB that is and not throw the ball up for grabs like he tends to do.

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Re: At this point, he’s an upgrade to what ND has at the position. Can’t underestimate the

Author: primo (1185 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:47 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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And he’s over 6-feet tall. The upside too is that he has plenty of experience playing Clemson.

Thread Level: 4

Re: At this point, he’s an upgrade to what ND has at the position. Can’t underestimate the

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:58 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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He's 6'0" he's a smidge shorter than I am

Thread Level: 4

If it had to be done, this is a home run!

Author: IrishOkie (243 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Discard Card.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 2:05 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Thread Level: 3

Re: Discard Card.

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:36 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Passing on the bigger/better talent hasn't worked out great for us in the past but ummmm

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