So we're gonna bring in a career 59% comp 8.1yd avg QB to replace 63% comp 7.9yd - all for 3"??
This was a whiff.
He's 26-18 this isn't really knocking the cover off the ball in a very weak ACC. Has looked decent but I don't like the trade. We should have gone after a more talented QB if we were going to upset the apple cart.
2.67 TD to INT vs. 4.0 which we had.
He does have more passing TD's in total but Wake passes a lot more than ND. Hope he does well but this is a miss.
Replies to: So we're gonna bring in a career 59% comp 8.1yd avg QB to replace 63% comp 7.9yd - all for 3"??
Go away.
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You convinced Pyne to come back?
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And he’s 6’0” tall…thought you couldn’t play QB at 6’0”?
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I saw 6'1". Either way. I laughed at the opener when the announcers said he wasn't tall enough to
see over the OL and D-line and that's why the pocket kept collapsing on him. LOL.
You are such a putz troll. Go away.
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Being jealous sucks. It's not a good look on you either.
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You'd know. In the meantime, I'm hoping this future NFL QB has our OL to block for him next year.
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Sir. You follow me around w/ absolutely nothing intelligent to say. Sorry, it's you not me.
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He’ll play in the NFL as much as Book has…oh wait
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You said you’d quit the board if book started a game in the NFL
Weird that you think you have some moral high ground
I left the board for 7 months
Moral high grounds? WTF are you talking about?
I’m not sure. But this board is definitely better with you
Here
We better hope Buchner is ready to go
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You think Buchner is the answer? I realize we have a small sample but his passing
ability so far stinks. Good runner but the way he plays the game he won’t last half the season. Rees as the OC won’t help.
Absolutely not the answer right now. That why
I said I hope he gets ready.
I’m with you but his passing ability is bleak at best. Angelli is an
unknown and Mincey looks the part but you really don’t want a true freshman starting QB.
Yikes, but yes.
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Exactly why they need a transfer QB.
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Even if Hartman comes
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That’s what she said
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LOL!!!
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Hartman just became the all-time leader in the ACC for passing TDs.
If he comes to ND, we are getting a proven baller. We'd be lucky to have him!
Last ND QB to throw for 3,500 yds in a season was????
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Name the last ND QB to play 6 years?
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Can't think of one I'd want to. Possibly Book or Kizer.
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Agree on Book. Quinn before he roided up. That's about it in modern times.
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Quinn in 2005, Clausen 2009.
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Yes
Any other questions?
should ND go after Stroud or Bryce Young?
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You can only go after what's in or going to be in the portal. There were much better choices.
Again, he's not "bad" just not an upgrade. Headscratcher.
that’s debatable.
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Which part?
Point I was making is I'm not delusional enough to think those kids, especially at QB, would even want to come to ND. That's the proven reality to date. Maybe Freeman can change it. Maybe. Gotta prove he can develop kids first and then prove he can win.
Lol. Yep..
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Great point.
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Another game manager next year. Hopefully Carr will be the guy in '24. ND waiting longer than Israel
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Honestly, I think it's what Rees likes. Just like Kelly taking an old page from the dated Saban book
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Yep...
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Let my people go
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Pharoah Jenkins refuses to lower standards....
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Far from it.
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You've got to be the dumbest guy here. Are you a 6th grader?
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Very fair question. I wonder the same many days.
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2022 Stats
2922 Stats
Hartman - 63.1% for 8.7 yards/attempt; 35TD-11 INT
Pyne - 64.6% for 8.0; 22-6
Caleb Williams - 66.1% for 9.1; 37-4
Looks good to me if he gets the INTs down.
A five year career is a lifetime in college. We don't have anywhere close to 5 years on the others
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You forgot the yardage: Hartman-317 ypg. Pyne-199 ypg. It’s a little easier
to throw when the opposing D doesn’t respect your ability to throw, doesn’t expect you to throw, you have a ground game that can’t be stopped and you have Micheal Mayer you can just lock in on and throw to.
Sir, please look into attempts and readjust. That stats are about as identical as they could be
given they play in two completely different offenses. One passes quite a bit more and has a longer tenure but the trajectory of the other looks the same but actually has a much better winning % and at the moment against better competition (Pyne).
He also played 12 games versus 10 for Pyne on a team with virtually no running attack
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Just FYI, 6 of the 11 INTs happened in 2 back to back games..
Don't know what was going on those 2 games, but in other 10 games combined he threw 5 INTs, so gotta think something wasn't right in those 2 games.
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Since Pyne's career stats are an unknown, maybe just compare this year's stats, common opponent...
even?
Then after that do the eye check. I haven't seen much of Hartman yet, but from little I've seen he appears far superior in all areas, especially field vision.
You've seen him. ND played him a few times. He was a more mobile Rees with a better arm.
He's not bad. It's just a whiff in the portal. IMO. Card was a much better risk/reward if you're going that route.
A few? When was this?
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2018 - ND won 56-27. 2020 postponed. I thought we played him one more time.
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3" matters.
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Pyne is 5’9”?
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That's what she said.... Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Sam Hartman’s Wake Forest passing offense: 10th. Drew Pyne’s Notre Dame passing offense: 101st
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Keyword. Offense. Tommy still hasn't figured that out.
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You usually have good takes, but not this one. He is seasoned, throws a nice ball and is a gamer.
The difference between him and Pyne is night and day. Watch him now. His first drive was good.
He's literally been unimpressive against a doormat of the SEC. He'll be okay at ND but isn't worth
the move IMO. We didn't gain a lot here other that 4 years of experience but if you look into the stats it's 20 TDs a year and we already get that. Not a big arm. mobile but he avg 2yds per carry. Nothing exciting.
The real question is would we be better than 8-5 with him as our QB over last 13 games
Not sure. It’s not all about the QB. Our defense was horrible in several games.
Too bad Pyne was afraid of competition.
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I tried to tell you..
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Our QBs on campus may turn out to be better,
But you have to give them a chance.
Tell me what?
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