Transfers: You sit out a year unless their are no BS legit reasons for an exemption.
NIL: Great, if you have a name, image, or likeness that people want to legit pay for to promote something or for signatures etc. No NIL packages to attract recruits. The student athletes work it themselves after commitment.
Nobody gets more than 5 years and has to be working toward a legit degree. No post grad players.
Let the SEC and their wannabes become an NFL minor league.
In other words put the “college” back in college football. Call the rest what it is, minor league football.
Either that or continue down the whoredom path.
I fundamentally agree with principles behind the ideas that you propose. Why must a semi pro league be associated with any university or institution of education? Makes no sense to call the athletes students and then treat them and make rules as if they are employees of a corporation. They are not employees, they are students.
Yes students play the game, but college football more than nfl derives its immense popularity and loyalty from the educational institution to which ut is tied, not the individual players. Let all the five and four star recruits form a minor league of their own: I’ve asked this before, would anyone watch the south bend Irish comprised of unproven HS athletes?
The athletes are students first then football players. We as a society, especially the educational institutions, must not forget this. These students deserve something, not because they bring in so many dollars but because they dedicate incredible amount of time outside of their studies. I would be in favor of a stipend commensurate with a what a student would make ina work study program. If they weren’t playing, they would be working perhaps as a tutor, in the dining hall, etc. and let’s not forget a full scholarship.
But no wonder the student athletes feel like they are being robbed. All around them are only greedy theives and hustlers known as university administrators. Just look at the move that USC and UCLA is making and tell me that what they are doing benefits the student athletes in any way! It’s in your face I don’t give a shit about the student, STFU we are following the Dollars move. No wonder the students feel like they deserve a piece of the pie.
The Universities must return the profits to where it belongs, education and other non profit sports. Why? Because that is the mission of the university: to foster and develop ALL of its students into productive citizens, which includes majority of the student athletes who will not play professional sports but become nurses, teachers, bankers, entrepreneurs, engineers.
There must be a hard reduction on coaching salary, and by, like, ALOT. And there must be a cap. All sports injury incurred during their school years must be covered, for the rest of their lives. There must be reprimand and penalty for not graduating players.
If we must insist on paying ridiculous amounts to players and coaches then we must separate them from the universities. As another poster mentioned, the universities exist to educate, not run football teams. We must allow HS graduates to opt for a developmental league rather than attend a university and call themselves students. College football will exist as sports played by student athletes and the ‘minor league’ will exist as a professional place of employment. Which one will you watch and invest yourselves?
How can we achieve this? Sadly, I have very little faith that it will ever become again ‘college’ football. Universities crave the dollar like a diver craves oxygen, which leaves only congressional action to right the ship. Only, the characters that comprise the congress may just be worse than leaders of our universities.
What’s the old adage, pigs eat, but hogs get slaughtered? They are well into the hogs realm right now. In fact their hogish ways of making and keeping millions while the players only got their schollys has led to much of this.
I do honestly wish that NIL, etc., had never come to the forefront, but it seems that this is here to stay, and all we can do is reminisce about the old days.
You are prolly right the University wants the cash too. Just don’t call it college football. It’s minor league pro ball.
I personally can think of nothing more honorable and befitting of 'What though the odds' than winning a natty in this realm while playing by the rules and kicking all the whole mongers' asses along the way.
It’s a serious question in my mind if ND should be playing in a minor pro football league under these current conditions of free agency and buying players.
constant in the growth of man is change.
Just something to keep in mind when adamantly opposing change.
How does ND lose by participating and changing with the game? In the midst of all the wokeness, it seems that participating would promote more equality and more equal opportunity than closing the school off only to a certain population group.
Someone proposed a stipend. I’m fine with that. I’m also fine with players legitimately benefiting from their NIL when they establish it. They can theoretically even do that in the Ivy. What I’m adamantly opposed to is a free agent and NIL system where teams just buy recruits or transfer players. In the day it was called bagmen and was illegal. That’s bad change and why there use to be transfer and bagmen rules. That is essentially a developmental pro minor league.
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in the whores league. They should name it the Fisher/Saban Pro Developmental League.
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Folks think amateur means for free - it doesn't - it means for the love. These univ have been making millions for decades and not that the players have learned their value it's "whoredom" - That's ridiculous. ND has been independent and not about sharing any of the revenue this football program brings in with any other uni or conf. This program has brought the school it's notoriety. Makes no sense that the TV deal, clothing deals, etc aren't shared with the players. How is it we dont see any of this talk when it comes to the uni, conf or NCAA. It's just when the players started talking.
IT's really not that hard. Stay flexible and use your position to your advantage within the rules until they change and you shift again. THATS how you win at anything. ND brought in the forward pass and changed the sport. Shouldn't be any difference here. Who better than ND can really take advantage of this new system? Drop the piousness, ND is bringing in millions from football.
paid for their proven NIL?
Whoredom also means buying athletes through the portal with NIL promises. Use to be called bagmen.
Time for the unis to also stop being profit centers on this as well.
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Don’t get me wrong… I see college football as exploitative of youthful men who often end up crippled and broke. I still feel that many also derive benefits they would never otherwise receive. We do not live in a perfect world so we must do the best we can with our present reality. Ivy League football is great for those who get Ivy League degrees. That’s not true for 95% of the country and ND will never be an Ivy League institution… thank God!
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While I like your idea of putting college in college football, it will reduce college football to...well, every other college sport...because the best will play somewhere other than at the collegiate level, and folks only want to pay to watch the best.
Football is a cornerstone of what transformed ND from a backwater Midwestern school to a national academic institution of great renown. And then after transforming the University, ND has been able to pat itself on the back about great academics + great football. NIL will leave ND in the dust if ND doesn't adjust quickly. Here's a proposal: take all of the bowl revenue ($5.5 M this year) and divide it among the 80 scholarship players who are on the team. If we could tell kids, come here and you'll have a lot of NIL, and even if you don't you'll get $68K per year, well that's pretty good.
it's completely illegal.
The University can't pay the players shit...money has to come from non-university affiliated 3rd Party, and without any university interaction in the process to be completely on the up n up.
This is what so many are doing that is coloring outside the lines...players can make comparable NIL money "AT" pretty much any of the big boys and especially at ND. But what others are doing that we aren't, is offering them an up front 'acquisition' fee just for coming as a recruiting tool, because it's illegal.
What every team should do if they want to be legit is when a recruit asks about NIL, they say 'we aren't permitted to speak to you about that during the recruiting process or directly (or indirectly) offer any money to come to us, however if you would like to speak to our current players to find out the NIL opportunities available to you once your are part of the program, you are more than welcome to do that anytime you want as often as you want'.
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be what they are, the NFL minor league. Let the young men that want to go straight to the pros go and God bless them. Schools that want to transform the NCAA to a legitimate association can bond together to create their own conferences. Recruit and scholarship student-athletes with like minded programs.
Let the pros play the pros. Let the student athletes play other student athletes.
Now maybe ND could donate the $5.5M to FUND, and then Brady Quinn could pay out the $68k to each player—except that is against NCAA rules too.
In fact, every time the team runs onto the field in the uniforms or a player does a press conference, I think the university is profiting off of the players' name, image and likeness, so they should have to pay for it just as any other sponsor who have the players sign cards at their local car dealership.