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What if the unthinkable happens and Buchner clearly out plays Hartman both spring & fall?

Author: MarkHarman (7241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:10 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Some people online (including my brother) thinks Hartman was promised the starting job.

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Thread Level: 2

Learning from history and applying a bit of common sense...

Author: nddad98 (1518 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:59 am on Jan 6, 2023
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It would be expected to see both play a lot of snaps. If Hartman can move the offense consistently, he should get most...and vice versa. Buchner must stop throwing so many interceptions....but he is still learning. Hartman is accurate but not a big runner which limits the offensive options. The parameters are obvious but the outcome is unpredictable....and I won't even try.

Thread Level: 3

If you’re looking at INT’s look no further than Hartman. It’s an issue with him.

Author: jimbasil (52322 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:02 am on Jan 6, 2023
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From what I’ve seen, he’s no more accurate than Buchner.

This is Hartman’s 6th year. If he’s that awesome why is he not going pro? The consensus is, he’s coming to ND to learn the pro style play before he enters the draft. Sounds great for him but how does that help ND? How does that help Buchner, Angeli and Minchey? The answer is, it doesn’t!


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Then Hartman will start after Buchner gets injured.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4605 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:33 am on Jan 6, 2023
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Then we run out into the streets and thrust our pelvises wildly.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:04 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Middle finger to the air. Scream Fuck you, USC. Buch is the man!

And then we go back to our wives and take them like champions.


aka Cletus
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Then he starts,

Author: DonMiller (3067 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 9:34 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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IMHO, I doubt that. Let the competition begin. Good thing.

Author: Frankx (5100 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 7:27 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Agree about competition. That’s a good thing.

Author: jray (3327 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:47 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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First world problems

Author: LanceManion (7660 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:22 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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If Hartman got beat out in the spring, wouldn't he transfer again?

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 7:19 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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It would mean that has very considerably upped his game. I don’t expect it, but it wouldn’t be the

Author: Frank L (64059 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:11 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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worst thing either. He did throw 3 ints, including 2 pick 6’s against a depleted Cock squad. Glad he shook it off, and won the game, but that performance wasn’t awe inspiring. My bet is Hartman wins the job fairly, just like Buchner did over Pyne. If not, we have a greatly improved Buchner. Either way it’s a win.

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If ND would have lost to SC, everyone would be calling for a new QB. Competition is good.

Author: jray (3327 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:49 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Re: It would mean that has very considerably upped his game. I don’t expect it, but it wouldn’t be the

Author: MarkHarman (7241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:16 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Hartman didn't come to ND to be 2nd string. If somehow Buchner is named the starter, I hope Hartman is of high enough character to not cause problems.

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Promising him the job doesn't sound like MF.

Author: iairishcheeks (26739 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:23 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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IB said they didn't guarantee the starting job.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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aka Cletus
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Who knows for sure what was really said?

Author: bobdrake (737 Posts - Joined: Sep 30, 2021)

Posted at 6:51 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Well, there we have it now.

Author: jimbasil (52322 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:40 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Correct, let him know hes got the inside track, but

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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He's got to win the job. BTW, how does Hartman hold MF to such a promise, without sounding like a whiney bitch?

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It is not that impossible that Buchner outplays Hartman

Author: bobdrake (737 Posts - Joined: Sep 30, 2021)

Posted at 6:17 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Hopefully no promises were made to Hartman

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Recruits come in being told they are the next

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:34 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Great thing, and never see a sniff of time. Are they being lied to?

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There is a difference between promising a starting job and saying you will probably be starting

Author: bobdrake (737 Posts - Joined: Sep 30, 2021)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Slippery slope here..

Author: cubsfanin16 (5485 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 9:58 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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Very slippery and very steep.

Author: ColeyO (12435 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:18 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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It's possible he was promised the job. What are the other incentives for Hartman?

Author: jimbasil (52322 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:16 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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1. he was promised the job.

2. he was promised the job

3. he was promised the job
or
4. he was promised the job


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

If he has been promised that needs to be shared with the other QBs

Author: ndphysics (3899 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 6:16 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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And they can decide to proceed accordingly.

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Exactly

Author: bobdrake (737 Posts - Joined: Sep 30, 2021)

Posted at 6:18 pm on Jan 5, 2023
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