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Still can't figure out why we haven't offered him??

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 7:20 pm on May 8, 2023
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6'2" 190lb guy with BLAZING SPEED and outstanding production! I said last year how this guy was a hidden gem in Idaho who would end up at Nebraska or somewhere but soon 'Bama and SEC will come calling

Link: https://news.scorebooklive.com/idaho/2023/04/27/gatlin-bair-hype-intensifies-as-top-idaho-2024-football-recruits-stock-continues-to-rise-nationally

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So where and when did you play?

Author: WoodstockIrish (14631 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:33 am on May 10, 2023
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You know the part that you’ve reminded us (bragged) about a dozen times

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Bragged?? Mentioned it twice in relation to WRs..but Committed to Miami as a JR and went to NC State

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:27 pm on May 11, 2023
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You played Div 1 football for NC State but you’re on a Notre Dame football board

Author: WoodstockIrish (14631 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:48 am on May 12, 2023
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Yeah that makes a lot of sense

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While your making sense of all in the world, what year did you attend AND play for ND?

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 10:10 am on May 12, 2023
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Oddly enough we beat ND in Gator Bowl, but recruiting during O'Leary transition was bad!

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 10:07 am on May 12, 2023
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So yea it makes perfect sense ND didn't have a Head Coach, I would've loved to play for O'Leary. I loved how he utilized Kerry Watkins, Kelly Campbell and Dez White at GT but never was a big fan of Willingham, he was too stoic for me and I knew he would never fit Notre Dame.

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If he can run a 10.18 100 meters and can catch, I'd take him without seeing him.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17144 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 7:19 pm on May 9, 2023
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Could be he’s not interested?

Author: whatsamataU (25118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 am on May 9, 2023
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Maybe bc he's gonna go on a mission for two years...

Author: ripperduck (3083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 am on May 9, 2023
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I guess it didn't matter with the likes of Kahanu Kia?

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 9:39 am on May 9, 2023
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What was the name of the LDS player BK recruited...

Author: ripperduck (3083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:46 am on May 9, 2023
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DB I think. Primplty left for a mission, came back, didn't do much, if anything. So if these kids leave for two years, it may very well be ND doesn't want those holes in their roster. I'm speculating, but why would you go and have more than one pjayer leave for two years, not be capable of working out at a P5 S&C level, and hope he can contribute if he decides to return?? Doesn't make sense to me, but then there may be an explanation why ND would take that risk..

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Chris Badger

Author: ndunabomber (6417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:41 pm on May 9, 2023
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He was a higher 3 star safety, and was looking pretty promising out of high school.

He took his mission to Ecuador for a couple of years, and after that never could really settle into the program. By that time, Matthias Farley and Zeke Motta (both NFL draft picks) already locked down those positions.


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Super fast but not many diff routes. 10.18 is ridic. But looks like ND has 4 elite WRs IF Robinson

Author: Karamello (3518 Posts - Joined: Aug 3, 2007)

Posted at 1:13 am on May 9, 2023
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I saw Fly, Fade, Post, Drag, Sluggo, End around, Bubble screens & few crushing blocks...

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 4:15 am on May 9, 2023
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Not to mention ELITE run after catch ability and ball skills in many jump ball situations....Actually now it makes sense that we didn't offer🤦🤦

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Do you have any way of knowing if ND has reached out and found no mutual interest?

Author: Chrisb (16381 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:16 am on May 9, 2023
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Just wondering

"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Just know that we haven't offered which is wild

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 5:15 pm on May 14, 2023
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The most basic routes and then an End Around, Screen and Blocking, NON-routes. So basically...

Author: Karamello (3518 Posts - Joined: Aug 3, 2007)

Posted at 8:52 am on May 9, 2023
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He's an elite athlete playing WR. Go compare his tape to ND '24 recruit Jason Robinson or Greathouse or Flores last yr. Their route packages are what I'm talking about. Nothing wrong with elite speed like Bair, you can't teach speed but getting track guys to stop and gear down can be difficult. Hope he kills it on the next level, just not VS ND.

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Robinson relies alot on explosiveness as well and runs solid routes...

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 9:25 am on May 9, 2023
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Greathouse is an ELITE route runner and Flores is a very good route runner. Bair and Robinson are close tonthe same except Bair is just 2x more explosive, dynamic and 4 inches taller. Interested to know what you consider basic routes? I could say they're all simple once you've played Football long enough or at least a few years of Collegiate level ball. Coming from a Track background alot of the smaller guys have trouble gearing down as opposed to the long strider so it didnt appear to be a problem for him at 6'2" but lets see how they all pan out.

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Troy Aikman once said about Rocket Ismael that he never saw such a speed merchant run such precise

Author: THEISMANCARR (17144 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 7:22 pm on May 9, 2023
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routes. And rocket wasn't exactly a polished receiver coming out of high school.

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He worked his ass off once he left Raiders...but he was 2500yd RB as a SR

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:30 pm on May 11, 2023
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Re: Robinson relies alot on explosiveness as well and runs solid routes...

Author: Karamello (3518 Posts - Joined: Aug 3, 2007)

Posted at 1:07 pm on May 9, 2023
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Bair is NOT in the class of route running as Jason Robinson. The 4,5 routes you mentioned Fade, Post, Drag, Sluggo are long routes didn't see much stemming just running by guys and that's probably what he'll do the majority of his career. Micah Gilbert tape has more comebacks routes and shows his ability to sink his hips at 6-2, 6-3. Bair is a hard charging WR like Michael Floyd with more speed. He's not a make you miss in a phone booth guy. Saying Robinson and Bair are equal route runners is enough for me. You're obviously a fan of his and not very objective when critiquing or evaluating. Or you just want to nitpick Freeman and Stuckey which wound be asinine considering how the WR room looks and is looking

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ELITE?? Interesting i'd say its about 5-7 ELITE WRs in College...

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 3:59 am on May 9, 2023
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You say we have 4 here at Notre Dame??

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Do you know which Robinson I'm referring too? We're talking HS recruiting right?

Author: Karamello (3518 Posts - Joined: Aug 3, 2007)

Posted at 8:44 am on May 9, 2023
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Jason Robinson from Poly? Am I right or another?

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:33 pm on May 11, 2023
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Grades?

Author: faircatchcorby (9748 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 8:27 pm on May 8, 2023
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He's a Mormon, 3.93GPA! Remember saying months ago 6'2 gem in Idaho with 10.18 (4.3) speed!!

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 12:54 am on May 9, 2023
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He ran 20.47 over the weekend at BYU Invit'l and is giving track up for Football after this Spring!!! Seems like he makes to much sense for us to recruit 1100yd WR with NFL measurables and LEGIT World Class speed in no mans land with almost 4.0 GPA!

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A HS kid running sub 10.5/21?!?!?!?

Author: ripperduck (3083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:54 am on May 9, 2023
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Back in da day, 1980s, we'd be over the moon if we could break 11 seconds/100 meters, and get near 21/200 meters. Incredible progression...

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Yea I remember late 90' and 2000s if you ran 10.3x or 20.8x you were Nat'l leader!

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 8:11 am on May 9, 2023
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Might wanna try 10.18/20.47.....I ran 10.46/21.11 as a JR in '01

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 4:21 am on May 9, 2023
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This guys turnover is crazy and he's 5'2"

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My Best time was 10.7, 21.02, 1982

Author: ripperduck (3083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:04 am on May 9, 2023
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We still ran 100/220 yards because some HS tracks were still configured in the old metrics. Biggest change though was the quality of the tracks. Best times always on synthetic, slower times on dirt. That's probably the biggest difference I've seen. A lot fewer dirt tracks now than then. I remember running my fastest times at San Jose State's stadium. Damn, that field was fast and true...

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21.02 in 220 is a GREAT time...basically 20.9 200m, did you ever try the 400??

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 2:35 pm on May 11, 2023
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Looks like Michigan lean until well GUESS WHO offered today...

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 12:58 am on May 9, 2023
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Bama! Why wouldn't they want a guy like that to add to their TRIO of 4.3 guys🤦🤦

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No

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 9:02 pm on May 8, 2023
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Too highly rated, can’t take anyone inside the top 1,000

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Re: Still can't figure out why we haven't offered him??

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 7:22 pm on May 8, 2023
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Too many good offers, need to settle for kids that only get G5 offers & below.

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Here comes 'Bama right on schedule!!

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 12:59 am on May 9, 2023
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Link: https://tdalabamamag.com/2023/05/08/alabama-offers-insanely-fast-wide-receiver-gatlin-bair/

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OK! And WR factories LSU and OSU haven't. Clem and OU haven't. And what if ND does?

Author: Karamello (3518 Posts - Joined: Aug 3, 2007)

Posted at 8:58 am on May 9, 2023
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Means nothing if they feel the kid isn't a fit systematically or culturally

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