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“Notre Dame continuing to trend away from 5-star defensive tackle“,

Author: whatsamataU (25117 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 am on May 22, 2023
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Link: https://fightingirishwire.usatoday.com/2023/05/21/notre-dame-football-recruiting-justin-scott-5-star-defensive-tackle/

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Thread Level: 2

Freeman should be recruiting Scott personally.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25732 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:05 pm on May 23, 2023
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5 stars matter.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 3

He is

Author: Nigel Tufnel (7978 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:23 pm on May 23, 2023
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 4

When was the last time he visited him?

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25732 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:21 am on May 24, 2023
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I've read no one from the staff has seen him in Chicago for several months.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 5

Not true

Author: Nigel Tufnel (7978 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:47 am on May 24, 2023
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 2

Coach Wash

Author: IdahoIrish (299 Posts - Joined: Oct 31, 2021)

Posted at 3:52 pm on May 22, 2023
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Are we convinced he's a good recruiter? I know MF said every coach has to be a good recruiter to be here. Has Washington pulled anyone in?

Thread Level: 3

Loghan Thomas if he chooses ND tomorrow.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58849 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:39 am on May 24, 2023
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Thread Level: 3

He’s falling short of expectations.

Author: faircatchcorby (9745 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:31 pm on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 2

Re: “Notre Dame continuing to trend away from 5-star defensive tackle“,

Author: Irish29 (506 Posts - Joined: Nov 10, 2015)

Posted at 3:38 pm on May 22, 2023
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Until two things happen. It really doesn’t matter. They sign on the dotted line, and then they enroll at Notre Dame..

Thread Level: 2

And Plan B

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 12:08 pm on May 22, 2023
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Is a god damn 3*, who has barely played organized football. Bad recruiting. This entire Defensive staff, outside of Mickens, is useless.

Thread Level: 2

The freshman calculus requirement gets us every time!

Author: NEPA Irish (926 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2009)

Posted at 11:32 am on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 3

Jesus Christ

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 11:12 am on May 23, 2023
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Just take the class in the summer. Everyone knows, summer classes are a joke. And if he can’t do it in the summer, get the kid a tutor. As someone who got an A in calculus in college, it’s a useless class.

I’m tired of all the excuses, if a kid had a functional brain, a decent work ethic and wants to be at ND, figure it out. Or just get out of major football and join the Ivy League. All of this pussy ass excuse making is old.


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Thread Level: 3

What Calculus requirement?

Author: WoodstockIrish (14629 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:57 pm on May 22, 2023
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I think there is literally a freshman math class that was called “fun with numbers” just like there was a science class
Called “rocks for jocks”

Please stop acting like this is Harvard or MIT


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Thread Level: 4

Bonehead calculus

Author: ndunabomber (6414 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:09 pm on May 23, 2023
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To put it this way, most athletes are going to take bonehead calculus their first semester, and then finite mathematics the second semester. Many liberal arts majors take this sequence as well, just to get the math requirement out of the way.

That calculus class is so stripped down, that as long as you've had high school algebra, you can easily pass it even without the benefit of having access to test files.


Thread Level: 4

It’s really not that hard…

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 11:18 am on May 23, 2023
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I’ve known a few guys that have done it. Including one that’s a really recognizable/well like player. He was an average B level student in college prep courses in HS. Not dumb, but not a genius. He got by just fine.

It’s certainly hard making the adjustment from HS to ND, but they have tons of resources to make that transition as easy as possible.


Thread Level: 3

Doubt much that it's that...he goes to Ignatius. He'll have better prep than most. Hope he comes.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58849 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:04 pm on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 4

Would love to know how we miss out on a 5*, private

Author: ndphysics (3896 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 12:49 pm on May 22, 2023
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Catholic school kid from Chicago to Miami. Seriously. Would like to know what the kid sees especially since he was in the verge of committing months ago.

I am not picking on the kid. Do your thing and go where u want to but just out if curiosity sake it would be interesting to know.

And we wonder why we really don’t get top tier talent like Georgia or Alabama…this is the type of kid u would think we would get.


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Thread Level: 5

It's totally unforgivable to lose him

Author: OHIrish (3542 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:10 pm on May 25, 2023
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Thread Level: 5

Bad Recruiting

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 2:44 pm on May 22, 2023
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That’s the answer. He wasn’t even part of POG last yr. And now, they have to settle for Sevillano. Meaning the ‘24 class is the abortion of 3* on Defense. There’s a very good chance the final D class looks like:

DL- Thomas 4*, Mullins 3*, Sevillano 3*, Wafle low 4*, Young 4*

LB- Rezac- low 3*, Kahoun 3*, House 3*

Cb- Hobbs- 3*, Moore- low 4*

S- Urlacher 3*, Andrews 3*, Miles 3*

That’s fuckin pathetic. Freeman should be on the hot seat for that disaster. He was hired to be an elite recruiter and that class sucks ass.


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Thread Level: 6

With previous staffs how many of these recruits would be a take or even offered??

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 4:10 pm on May 22, 2023
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I'd say...
Holtz 2
Davie 4
Willingham 11
Weis 4
Kelly 9


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Thread Level: 7

Situation for Lou was a little different in the beginning.

Author: whatsamataU (25117 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:47 pm on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 8

Agreed and ND was THE national brand, but alot of people forget he came in a down time

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 6:27 pm on May 22, 2023
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Also, Holtz seemed to basically have a smaller recruiting scale and strictly recruited the top 150 player in the country for 80% of his tenure.

Thread Level: 9

There was a lot of talent across the board on his teams.

Author: ndphysics (3896 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 7:41 pm on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 10

Go take a look at the roster and see that 75% of his teams were Prep AA

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 9:09 pm on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 6

Yikes!!! At ND??? That Safety and LB class would show a perfunctory effort

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 4:03 pm on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 7

Golden & O’Leary are garbage

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 5:17 pm on May 22, 2023
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Thread Level: 6

I don’t think that is the sole reason. At some point the NIL

Author: ndphysics (3896 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 2:56 pm on May 22, 2023
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And school requirements have to have some affect. We can’t pretend we can get whomever we want But this players situation is interesting. NIL has to be a big factor.
School matter to a lot of kids and parents but NIL has to hurt. No question.

Also, maybe this kid wants to fo somewhere warmer.


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Thread Level: 5

We get most of our players from the reverse situation. But in this recruits case, maybe he wants to

Author: BaronVonZemo (58849 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:56 pm on May 22, 2023
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move away from home?

Thread Level: 6

The reason is NIL until proven otherwise.

Author: iairishcheeks (26731 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:48 pm on May 22, 2023
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I have two teenagers, seems like their generation is all about the Benjamin's. "Why do I need to go to college at all, so and so influencer didn't."

Thread Level: 7

Lazy excuse making

Author: NDIrish1988 (330 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 4:45 pm on May 22, 2023
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