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Was Estime trying to set the FG try up on the left hash, on the TD run ?

Author: OklahomaIrishman (2907 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:20 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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It seemed like he was just going left for that reason, then saw a seam develop on the right, and ran through it ! I could not believe it. His speed is something when he sees daylight !

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Thread Level: 2

Kicking should never be an option with this kicker

Author: cubsfanin16 (5483 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:38 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Makes me wonder more about Freeman..

Thread Level: 3

He seems to be the only one who doesn't understand that his Kicker is shaky.

Author: jakers (13709 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:34 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Thread Level: 4

I think at this point that's why he isn't reversing course

Author: NDNEIL (7423 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:48 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Coming out and saying he was wrong would be throwing his kicker under the bus.

Thread Level: 5

See I don't even look at it that way, I literally don't care who the kicker is..

Author: Chrisb (16381 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:21 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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name the best kicker in the history of the F'ing Universe, I DON'T CARE.

You do not take 6 guaranteed points off the board, that opens the door for an additional 1-2 maybe points, to trade for 3 maybe points.

Even with a great kicker, things can go wrong on a kick: bad snap, bobbled snap, bad hold, kicker plant foot slips, DL penetrates, DL jumps and gets one finger on it, kicker shanks it, a bird flies by and bumps it, whatever...there are no Mulligans.

Taking the guaranteed 6 (plus 1-2 maybe) off the board for maybe 3, is possibly stupider than anything Davie ever said...this is really bad if our HC is thinking like this.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
Thread Level: 6

Yep, you only "go down at the 1" if you're up by 1 and scoring is the only way you can lose.

Author: jakers (13709 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:48 pm on Oct 3, 2023
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Up by 1 point, 60-120 seconds left in the game and the opponent has 1 or no timeouts? I'm okay with going down at the 1. In those cases, the only way you can possibly lose is if they get the ball back and can tie it.

Any other situation, forget it. Put it in the endzone.


Thread Level: 7

Exactly.

Author: Chrisb (16381 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Oct 3, 2023
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
Thread Level: 3

Yes Sir!

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 4:17 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Thread Level: 3

I was scared to death at the thought of kicking a 40 something yard FG

Author: OklahomaIrishman (2907 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:50 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Our kickers have big legs, but you never know if it will go through the sticks. Also, when some said ideally you down it at the one and run the clock down, and kick a FG, I disagree. I was thrilled we ran it in and got the 2. Too many things have gone wrong, I felt we had it won with 5 or 7 with 31 seconds left. They could not move the ball very fast. The kickoff return was the only thing at all that gave me any worry. Could not believe they fair caught it.

Thread Level: 4

I actually think our kicker is pretty good sometimes misses aren't on the kicker, that said, I hate

Author: THEISMANCARR (17144 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 3:24 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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leaving it in the hands, well foot, of a kicker. Because it is not just the kicker sometimes the center snap is off and throws the timing or placement off of a great play is made and a block takes place. Hell getup by seven like we did and go from there. There were 51 seconds left and they weren't going very far. Take it in unless you are ahead at the very least.

Thread Level: 5

31 seconds.

Author: Chrisb (16381 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:13 am on Oct 3, 2023
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
Thread Level: 5

No doubt there are multiple elements that can potentially fail .

Author: OklahomaIrishman (2907 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:48 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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A lot less elements for #7 with a hole, and vision of the End Zone.

Thread Level: 4

I couldn't agree more, we don't have Jake Elliott

Author: cubsfanin16 (5483 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Thread Level: 4

I couldn't agree more, we don't have Jake Elliott

Author: cubsfanin16 (5483 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Thread Level: 2

No doubt he was trying to get a few yards and go left.

Author: ndphysics (3899 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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That was the call.

Grateful that he scored. Leaving the game up to our FG kicker doesn’t seem like the best idea.

Freeman said today that in a perfect world estime would go down on the 1 and we wild kick the field goal. I think thats a little crazy if I can go up a touchdown with so little time left.

Maybe in the nfl, but not college with an inconsistent kicker

Also, why not kick the ball out if the end zone. If I are worried about them scoring kick the damn ball out of the end zone. Big returns are a killer in those situations.


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Thread Level: 3

In this world...you're happy with the TD...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33392 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:23 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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Thread Level: 2

Typically, right footed kickers like the ball on the left hash mark

Author: ndunabomber (6416 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:42 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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The basic technique is to aim for the right goalpost, and give it a hard boot. The spin on the ball curves it back to the center, and it's an easier kick than kicking from the right hash mark.

Regarding Estime's speed, some reports are out there that he now runs closer to a 4.42, which is fantastic for a big back who is hard to bring down.

Just to put it in perspective, Jerome Bettis ran around a 4.65 while he was at ND, and that was considered fast for a big back.


Link: https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1053183&DraftYear=2025

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Thread Level: 3

I still don't get it. Did MF want Estime to fall at the one or score that TD?

Author: ELP (9320 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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What scenario was he talking about?

Thread Level: 4

If he still thinks Estime should have fallen at the one, we may be fooked!

Author: Chrisb (16381 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:16 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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He needs to start frequenting coaching clinics, with highly successful HCs.

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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
Thread Level: 5

That is funny stuff , yet probably true !

Author: OklahomaIrishman (2907 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:43 pm on Oct 2, 2023
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A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. I am glad Estime ran it in ! There were only 31 ticks left . I knew we would hold them.

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