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Hartman not playing?

Author: Curly1918 (16160 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 2:28 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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If this bowl is just an excuse to practice this makes perfect sense.

Link: https://twitter.com/Re2pectsport/status/1732067132832141591

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I didn't think he would

Author: bobdrake (737 Posts - Joined: Sep 30, 2021)

Posted at 6:12 am on Dec 6, 2023
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I’m fine with him not playing and I’d rather see the younger quarterbacks play. Glorified scrimmage.

Author: Jerseymick (5132 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:17 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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We were out of the NY6 after the Clemson game

Author: NDWisconsin (906 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:41 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Not sure the story checks out. Anything outside NY6 and playoffs is lower-tier. Regardless, excited to see who starts the bowl game.

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I hope he doesn't play. No reason to play or not.

Author: NDQuebec (2116 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 4:57 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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He won't improve his draft stock, whether he plays or not. As for ND, they have nothing to gain by playing him. Let Angeli start for a whole game, even if it's a glorified scrimmage.

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Re: Hartman not playing?

Author: irishelder (651 Posts - Joined: Feb 4, 2008)

Posted at 4:11 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Angeli’s chance to show he deserves ( or not) the #1 QB going into next year

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Re: Hartman not playing?

Author: LOND1 (273 Posts - Joined: Dec 22, 2021)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Media keeps saying winning 10 games is important. Is it? OSU has their third string QB playing for god sakes.

I could give two dimes about 9-4 vs 10-3 this year. In fact, 2023 will soon be cashed out from my memory bank along with most the past 35+ years of mediocrity. Ask me what our record was in 2019…I have no clue.

If we make the playoffs and make some noise, I will remember that for a long time, like 1988, 1993, and 2012. Otherwise, it’s just white noise.

So agree with ELP, I don’t have strong feelings about Sam, whether he plays or not. Still think he is a good man, Still want ND to win the bowl (not because of the record, but because I want ND to win every game).


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Well said.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:46 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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It was 11-2 and it is always better to have a better record but only getting to the playoffs

Author: THEISMANCARR (17142 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 4:27 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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is memorable and only a national championship is truly great. The 11-2 was achieved when we beat Brock Purdy and Iowa State.

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They were a 5 loss team and barely bowl eligible.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:47 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Just tired of mediocre play in games against ranked opponents

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 4:23 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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We can win with Angeli.

Author: hipND (4135 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:03 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Let's go.

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Give him his chance. He’s earned it. May surprise some folks.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:47 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Indeed we can. Tee it up and kick ass.

Author: faircatchcorby (9743 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 4:33 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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He's leaps and bounds better than what I'm guessing is the 3rd strong OSU QB

Author: ndunabomber (6411 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:07 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Maybe not...

Author: eddie82 (754 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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My understanding is that this year's 3rd string QB for OSU was last year's starter with a 7-2 record as the starter. So he brings more experience than what we'd put out there if there is no Hartman although, admittedly, you don't go from 1st to 3rd string if your coaching staff is happy with you (unless you transfer to Alabama or Arizona State).

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Based on what?

Author: MikeOxenfire (202 Posts - Joined: Sep 21, 2009)

Posted at 3:32 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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These level bowls have become nothing more than cheap content for ESPN

Author: D2 (7646 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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With top level guys opting out and the transfer portal decimating teams depth charts, they are merely exhibition games and a chance for teams to face other guys not on their team.

Hartman can make whatever choice he wants be he gains nothing in playing this game and ND can learn a lot from letting Angeli and Michney play with guys who will be their teammates next year.


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They are. Just relevant for the extra practice and trying some guys out.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:08 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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That works for me.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25728 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Let's see Angeli for a full game.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Thinking the backup is better...

Author: MikeOxenfire (202 Posts - Joined: Sep 21, 2009)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Until he's not.

ND tradition.


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So he didn’t lead the team to a better record and therefore a better bowl, so he opts out now?

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Pathetic

Jersey Sucks!
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When asked in yesterday's presser

Author: captaincoyle (137 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:45 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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Freeman's answer re Hartman playing certainly left the door open that Hartman could be announcing a decision to opt out.

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Doesn't bother me if he's in or out. I want the 10th win but he's not the future.

Author: ELP (9319 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 2:33 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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This^^^^

Author: faircatchcorby (9743 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 4:34 pm on Dec 5, 2023
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