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ND independence might not last much longer.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25827 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:11 am on Feb 22, 2024
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The talks around the 2026 playoff format don't favor access to the playoff for ND. The SEC and B10 are talking 4 bids each.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability

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Thread Level: 2

Heard Grunhard on the radio today. He was adamant that ND MUST join a conference, or be left out

Author: FoolBear (385 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2017)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Feb 23, 2024
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by the future changes in college football. He made some interesting points.

I still hope ND stays INDEPENDENT forever, but it was interesting to hear a former player not offended by the idea of change.


Thread Level: 2

Why don't the Big10 and SEC just cut out the middle man and have their champs play?

Author: LanceManion (7958 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:46 am on Feb 23, 2024
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Why the pretext of having a "college football playoff" committee that is largely controlled by them, where they have allocated spots in the playoffs, and they force others to join their division?

I'm not a Swarbrick fan, but I happen to agree with him on this. What the SEC and Big10 are doing shouldn't be affiliated with tax-exempt colleges. Spin it off into another pro league.

But they don't want that. They don't want another competing college football product. Which I think is and will be the answer to this whole thing.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 2

The NBC deal was a first step towards marrying ND and the B1G. Powerful business interests want it

Author: tky21 (2636 Posts - Joined: May 13, 2010)

Posted at 7:06 am on Feb 23, 2024
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to happen now. Chess pieces will eventually be put into place to make it inevitable and allow ND to save face in doing it.

"Put a Riddell on somebody and be the most physical team in the country until the whistle blows."
Thread Level: 3

Agreed.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25827 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:13 am on Feb 23, 2024
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It's an inevitability in my eyes.

The B10 and SEC are going to push for and likely receive 4 bids each for the proposed 16 team playoff starting in 2026. ND will have to be on the right side of that if it wants to compete for national titles. Being independent in that environment is a non-starter, and going to the dying ACC would be a colossal mistake.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 2

Time to join the B10 and kick some PSU, OSU & Michigan ass!

Author: irishslovak (1362 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 8:42 am on Feb 22, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

Zzzzz

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:33 am on Feb 22, 2024
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Every year we get this same take, for (insert new reason here).

And every year, we're still independent.


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 3

Can't really disagree with this. However, the real question becomes, is it now TIME to join?

Author: faircatchcorby (9815 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:56 am on Feb 22, 2024
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Although technically Independent in football now, ND is a de facto member of the ACC. Not a big

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4620 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:05 am on Feb 22, 2024
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leap to full conference membership any longer.

More than playoff access, I think it will come down to TV and other revenue.


Thread Level: 3

The landscape is changing fast.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25827 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:45 am on Feb 22, 2024
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If the access to the playoff decreases, and the ability to create a viable schedule decreases, ND will bend the knee.

I hope that doesn't happen, but it could.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 4

Nd has said that access would push a decision to join, and it looks to be about to happen.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:26 am on Feb 22, 2024
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^^^^THIS^^^^^^

Author: faircatchcorby (9815 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:57 am on Feb 22, 2024
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An independent ND that fills up its schedule with group of 5 teams is intramurals. There is no ince

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:58 am on Feb 22, 2024
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ntive for any school to schedule ND. Sure, there might be some TV exposure, but that will wane with time.

Thread Level: 4

Are you nuts? Teams like TN State along with top teams like Michigan relish playing ND.

Author: faircatchcorby (9815 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 10:03 am on Feb 22, 2024
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I'm keeping this

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:52 am on Feb 22, 2024
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'There is no incentive for any school to schedule ND'.

This is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen on this board, and that's saying something.


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 5

What do you see as an incentive. USC can play perennial top 15 teams OSU, Oregon, Washington, Pen

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:51 am on Feb 22, 2024
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n State and Michigan on top of the tier 2s in the big 10. What advantage is it to USC to play Notre Dame? If they beat the others in the Big 10, they'll have plenty of quality wins to qualify for a playoff.

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