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In addition to coaching, prep, QB play, and mental weakness I’d add the OL/DL to the list.

Author: LanceManion (7975 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:49 am on Sep 8, 2024
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OL is the incredibly obvious problem, but I’d say failure to recruit elite DL also contributed to the loss. Yes, you’d think we would beat NIU holding them to 16 pts, but we also didn’t stop them on D when we needed to. In the case of the DL the problem was foreseeable. In some ways the OL less so due to injuries.

End of the day, I just don’t think Freeman knows how to build a championship program at the personnel, coaching, and motivational level. Too bad because this would have been the year, but now I’m as concerned about 5 losses as I am making the playoffs.


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Replies to: In addition to coaching, prep, QB play, and mental weakness I’d add the OL/DL to the list.


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I'd add to list, who ever made the call to throw the pick that sealed

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:55 am on Sep 8, 2024
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our fate. Dumbest fucking call I've ever seen. WHY,why,why ??? Wasn't it a 3rd and short down??

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disagree Would have been a touchdown if we had a QB who could throw.

Author: garryowen (3515 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 11:57 am on Sep 8, 2024
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You're missing the point.

Author: SanJoseCAFan (1550 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:31 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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Would-haves and Could-haves isn't the issue.
It's that they were throwing the ball...or throwing it down the middle of the field...at all at that point.
2nd and 1...just run the ball...and get a first down...and then run the ball or safe passes to get some yardage and keep the clock running.

Here's a quote I found attributed to Leonard about that play:
“It was a completely bad read,” Leonard said of the interception. “That single high safety was attached to the inside post. I thought he wouldn’t attach again. Bad eyes, bad feet, bad ball. That resulted in a pick. Can’t happen. Completely my fault.”

Bad read? How about lousy, short pass no matter what the safety did?

I'm sure we've all heard the quote about there being 3 things that can happen when the ball is passed...and 2 of them are bad.
Well...the worst thing happened....at probably the worst time in the game.


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I don't think that he is missing the point at all.

Author: NDQuebec (2118 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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If your QB can't throw, it makes the offense one-dimensional. Defenses will stack the box and put the oline and the running backs at a severe disadvantage. This is what happened during the game. This defeat is purely due to a QB that can't complete a pass.

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so you're saying the coaches didn't know he couldn't make that throw? wtf? what are they doing?

Author: und67 (6805 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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Therein lies the problem. Not one person has described Leonard as a passing quarterback

Author: LanceManion (7975 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:00 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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He’s not even better than Hartman who had his own limitations as we all learned last year.

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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Hartman scrambled and threw better. He’d have won that game.

Author: LanceManion (7975 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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As would Angelli, IMO

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:10 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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or carr.

Author: und67 (6805 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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or rees.

Author: und67 (6805 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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Yes, Rees was better

Author: bobdrake (738 Posts - Joined: Sep 30, 2021)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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or minchey.

Author: und67 (6805 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:16 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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or anybody who can execute a simple hand-off.

Author: und67 (6805 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:19 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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just have to call the play and not be stupid.

msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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Agree.

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:10 pm on Sep 8, 2024
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That was a Charlie Weiss play. Take a gamble on something where the risk highly outweigh the reward

Author: LanceManion (7975 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:56 am on Sep 8, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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You nailed it.Probelm is Freeman.Feel good hire, not a great coach.

Author: garryowen (3515 Posts - Joined: Oct 22, 2007)

Posted at 11:51 am on Sep 8, 2024
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