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Running QBs, like Riley Leonard, are more vulnerable to injuries. Look at the Dolphin's Tua T.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 9:19 am on Sep 13, 2024
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He just had his 3rd career concussion and there's speculation that he might call it a career now, even though he's still young.

Leonard, also, seems to be injury prone. Could he possibly make it through the whole season?


Replies to: Running QBs, like Riley Leonard, are more vulnerable to injuries. Look at the Dolphin's Tua T.


Thread Level: 2

You need a running QB at ND. No doubt about it. But, they need to be able to pass to compliment

Author: tky21 (2636 Posts - Joined: May 13, 2010)

Posted at 9:05 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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a power running game as the bread and butter. Right now, we don't have a power running game or a QB that can throw.

"Put a Riddell on somebody and be the most physical team in the country until the whistle blows."
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Why didn't he run last week

Author: BornIrish (54 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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Were they concerned about the season? SMH

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He stopped running after he suffered the shoulder injury

Author: ndunabomber (6484 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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Defensive players are too fast, strong, and smart for almost any running QB

Author: ndunabomber (6484 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:12 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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Yes, people will point out that there were plenty of running QB's out there who played well back in 80's, 90's, etc., such as Steve Young, Randall Cunningham, etc., but there are several things to take into account.

1) Nose tackles back in those days rarely were heavier than 290 lbs. Michael Carter and Ted Washington were probably two of the biggest guys in that era at that position. Today's NT's are well over 300 lbs.

2) 3 technique tackles were usually around 275 lbs (no joking). If you got heavier than that, you were thought of as being too big and slow for the position, and would be shifted to NT.

3) Strongside defensive ends were closer to 260 lbs, and seeing a monster the likes of Reggie White or Bruce Smith (both of those guys were around 280) was a rarity. These days, that kind of weight is more of a weakside end's.

4) Linebackers were around 230 lbs, not the hulking 245 lb nightmares you see today.

5) Safeties rarely cracked 200 lbs. Someone like Mark Carrier was closer to 180 lbs, and a 200 lb safety the likes of Ronnie Lott was extremely uncommon. These days, safeties are around 205 lbs.

That, plus all defenders look like they're bigger, faster, and stronger than the ones from 25-35 years ago. Combine all of the above together, and today's runners are getting beaten up much more than they were a few decades ago.

This is why a lot of running QB's who were spectacular in high school and college either have very short lifespans in the pros, if any at all. You won't see someone like Tim Tebow out there.

Cam Newton is probably the best running QB ever seen, and frankly, I'm surprised he lasted that long.

He's big, strong, fast, and can also throw decently. Back when he was at Auburn, he could run over any safety, get the better of just about any collision with a linebacker, and even shrug off hits from the linemen, and keep on running.

In the pros, even at 250 lbs of solid muscle, he's like an old man out there, since he got battered and bruised senseless throughout his career, and you can see how badly (and quickly) he declined after his one big glory year. Those hits do add up, and painkillers can only cover things up for so long.

Riley Leonard, if given a chance in the pros, would get eaten alive if he doesn't learn how to be a passer first.


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No chance of getting drafted

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:33 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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Agreed

Author: ndunabomber (6484 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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Riley Leonard isn't going to be drafted, and unless he can show that he can complete a downfield pass with regularity, he'll be lucky to be offered even a free agent contract (and not a priority one).

I can't quite remember the fellow who claimed that Riley Leonard would be a 1st round pick last year...

In the end, it's not surprising that the guys who had the longest careers were dropback passers who would simply get rid of the ball instead of taking a risk running it. Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Tom Brady, et al., wouldn't have lasted nearly as long had they taken off scrambling on a regular basis.


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Tuanigamanuolepola Donny Tagovailoa"s situation

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:49 am on Sep 13, 2024
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According to Spotrac:

While a full recovery is the only real focus here, in response to questions regarding Tua Tagovailoa's contract:

The deal includes $167M guaranteed for injury, $43M of which has been paid in 2024.

If he's medically cleared to return to football, but opts to retire, he will forego the remaining $124M guaranteed (barring a custom settlement).

If he's medically forced into retirement, he has a right to collect the $124M remaining.


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He should retire

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:41 am on Sep 13, 2024
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Don't F around with concussions.

Given his concussion history, was amazed that he would run head-first into a tackle rather than slide feet forward.


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Agree. If he can stay on IR this year: take the $10M pro-rated signing bonus, $50M salary & retire.

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 12:33 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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I wonder what the QB injury numbers were during the glory days of the Triple Option?

Author: ELP (9601 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:21 am on Sep 13, 2024
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When Bear Bryant ran the wishbone at Bama, he would use one QB first half, another 2nd half

Author: jrdjr84 (1053 Posts - Joined: Jan 14, 2014)

Posted at 1:03 pm on Sep 13, 2024
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When they had 110 players on the roster.

Author: DiscoRick (1390 Posts - Joined: Sep 15, 2021)

Posted at 9:30 am on Sep 13, 2024
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Regardless of roster size, there is only 1 starting QB.

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 10:02 am on Sep 13, 2024
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From what I remember, the wishbone QB's were pretty durable.

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