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So, can anyone evaluate Angeli's play Saturday? The good w/ the bad.

Author: ELP (9621 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 4:30 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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Riley's play has be dissected within an inch of his life. Now it's Steve's turn.

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@ELP what's your take?

Author: oldirish (9338 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:26 pm on Sep 17, 2024
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Far superior passer, plenty of arm, plenty of escapability, maybe a little slow out of the pocket,

Author: oldirish (9338 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 3:56 pm on Sep 17, 2024
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most gripe he held the ball to long (on one bad sack). To me, given the lack of real playing time that is explainable and something that can be learned from. You can't improve what you don't get real reps doing. With gametime Angeli would be far superior to anyting we've played at QB since Book. See stats below.

His ball placement through 5 quarters we seen him play has been very accurate.
His arm isn't amazing and isn't terrible.
He's tall in the pocket.
He can escape the pocket though may be a tad slow deciding to go. This could also mean he doesn't bail quickly which is a good thing too. We need more data here.
He knows how to throw downfield and does not appear afraid to do so.
He seems very calm and collected. The stage has not appeared too big for him in limited minutes to date.
He can run, but isn't a runner.
He allows us to run a complete offense, taking away the ability for a defense to make ND's offense one-dimensional.
Most importantly, he's proven to move the chains. Something both Leonard and Hartman could not do.

+ Angeli has played real minutes in about four ND games: TN ST '23, PITT '23, Ore St '23, and PUR '24, His QBR avg is 94.2 and he has 8 TDs with 0 INTs in 46 pass attempts for 554 yards (12yd avg). Overall, 9TDs 1 pick
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/4685694/type/college/year/2023

+ Leonard on the other hand has played in three ND games: His QBR avg is 63.1 and he has has 0 TDs with 2 INTs in 78 pass attempts for 433 yards (5.5yd avg). Overall, 0TDs 2 picks.
Career QBR 59.57 (removing FR yr 69.43) - This is exactly the type of play we've watched. The same for Hartman. It's seems to be a reliable indicator more than our opinions.

+ Sam Hartman in 2023 had a QBR of 75.5 and 24TDs and 8 picks.
Career QBR 69.50, again about the level of play we saw.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4361994/type/college


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I don't think he's good enough to win a NC with the team he has around him.

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:25 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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Well, I know the starter isn't

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:47 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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Would like to see Minchey get more looks the next time there is a blowout.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:17 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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He is the second coming of Terry Andrysiak. (a nice guy) No Tony Rice around this time!

Author: irishslovak (1364 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 4:54 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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Lou had bad luck with QB's breaking their collarbones.

Author: ndunabomber (6487 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:12 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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Andrysiak, Kelchner, and Powlus (twice) all had some bad luck.

Yes, Tony Rice had an unbelievable season, and got us to the promised land. I wouldn't trade that for anything, of course.

Still, I wonder how Andrysiak would have done, since he had a very underrated arm, and could get some really good zip on that ball downfield. He was averaging 16 yards per completion in 1987 before the unfortunate injury.


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good passer,,much better than rl,however its worrisome

Author: cubsfanin16 (5502 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 4:49 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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that in year 3 he holds ball too long he is inclined to take sack rather than throw ball away which must be corrected
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*delete - see above post

Author: oldirish (9338 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 3:40 pm on Sep 17, 2024
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He played really well other than taking a long sack when he clearly held the ball too long.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17220 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 4:33 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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He throws a nice ball, is somewhat of a good runner, but it is mostly based on his timing of when to run rather than having outstanding athletic ability. But he knows how to be a quarterback.

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Sounds like Purdy from SF

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:49 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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Aye, needs to throw some of those away rather than take the sack. But overall quite good.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60141 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:47 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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He looked very good, for coming in cold

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:46 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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I wonder if Steve has a problem w/ that in practice all this time.

Author: ELP (9621 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Sep 16, 2024
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