Is Brohm someone ND should consider if the MF experiment does not turn out? Likely a few
more years to determine, but Brohm does seem to be a good coach and doing more with less at LVU.
Granted, he seems like a lifer there since that's where he played (as did his brother who is also on staff).
Replies to: Is Brohm someone ND should consider if the MF experiment does not turn out? Likely a few
Patience, rare in this sport, can be rewarded. A certain Penn St coach hired in 1966 won the
first of two national championships in 1982 (the other 1986). A certain Nebraska coach, hired in 1973, won the first of his three national titles in 1994 (then '95,'97). Like Freeman, both were rising young assistant coaches when hired for the head job. Schools that fire coaches who win 9 or so games a year typically live to regret it (looking at you, Huskers).
Yes and that is the reason those programs have no where near as many NCs as ND.
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Cut the shite. Freeman is going nowhere.
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See D2 response. He can still recover, I will admit to that. He's just trending flat at best
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Agree, arrow looked up at start the season...we lose tomorrow
Not so much!
Two Years and $4M to go
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I'm starting to really like the guy at Indiana.
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Second and even third that idea. A winner everywhere he’s been.
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Did his losses to Pitt & USC last season impress you?
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A hell of a lot more than Marshall and NIU. Gonna brush those under the rug already?
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Loovul is a trailer park team loaded with ringers... Hire BillO'Brien!!!
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If he beats us Saturday my vote would be to rush him near the top of the list
We hired both Leahy and Ara because they kept beating us...went OK. lol
Hired Ty because he beat Davie 3 of 5. Have Leonard because he nearly beat Hartman until injury
Before you use that metric...it's best to measure the yardstick first...
Sorry...but beating a Freeman-led team is like beating a Davie team...
Yeah I don't agree with this comparison AT ALL...
Throwing ty's name out on this is like people using ty to push back on hiring experienced HCs...he's the exception not the norm.
And in terms of beating Davie being put on same level as beating Freeman...the difference between the state of football under Davie was completely different than it is now.
Davie was 21-16 after three seasons and we looked like a joke on the field. Freeman is already 22-8 early on in third full season and yeah he's had some inexplicable losses but he's also had some impressive wins and the product on the field doesn't look like a joke.
Obviously the only metric for considering Brohm wouldn't be that he beat us...when comparing the candidate he is vs what ty was, there is a very noticeable difference.
ty had 7 years HC experience (all at one stop) and had never served as an Offensive or Defensive Coordinator. Brohm currently has 11 years college HC experience, at three different stops AND has served as an Offensive Coordinator at three different stops along with one year as a HC in arena league. So Brohm's overall level of experience is much higher and more diverse than ty's was.
Now let's consider how they did as college HCs, with the understanding that almost every ND HC all time who was a HC at ND and other college stops, had a significantly higher win % at ND than their other combined stops (even ty was better at ND than his other stops with a 21-15 record for a .583 win%).
Brohm currently has 79 college wins with a .622 win % and would be 2-1 vs ND if he wins tomorrow with the loss coming when he was at Purdue vs the 11-1 2021 team.
ty came to ND with 44 college wins under his belt and a .543 win %...yes he went 3-2 vs Davie led ND, but all 3 wins were ND at Stanford.
In total ty has 11 seasons as a HC (outside of ND) with his time a UW added and in those 11 seasons he had 55 wins and a combined .426 win %.
...these would not be comparable hires.
I think that might be the line of thinking that sparked the thought.
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He ain't going anywhere until the end of 2025 at least so this is a silly question
But then this type of inanity three game into a season is your m.o.
As is your typical m.o. anger responses without reading - "likely a few more years to determine."
Based on lack of learning and repeat offenses to the same problems game flow/clock management (the basics) make this not exactly an inane question to start considering.
I hope MF turns the corner and gets to a point where he doesn't seem so caught off gaurd or completely baffled in press conferences.
There are plenty of things to like about what MF is doing. There numerous red flags that equally warrant caution as well.
Short of a complete and total systemic collapse (e.g., losing record) seems like he’ll get at least
And if he ends up with 10 wins this season, which seems likely, I’d say 26 is earliest he’d go.
Truth
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Yes along with Cignetti
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I vote OUI
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MF is politically untouchable. But if he wears out his welcome in 5, Louisville may be a better job
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The Willingham debacle assured MF will see 5 w/ a $4M buyout.
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It won't matter, the people who want to claim racism will do it no matter how long he gets be it
3, 5, or 7 years. The Kelly precedent has been set with keeping him after a disastrous 2016 season.
Brohm my choice before they hired Freeman. I also liked his son as a Rees replacement.
Are you talking about Brian Brohm? That's his brother not his son.
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Credit where credit is due. Good choice on your part. I never really thought of it but agree on his
brother too.