Kelly vs. MF - The win % and recruiting is not as different as you think.
Kelly first 3 full years: .715 win % (avg 9-4)
MF .754 win % (avg 9 - 3 -- season incomplete)
Recruiting Class Rankings:
Kelly: 10, 11, 12 - avg 11
MF: 6, 11, 10 - avg 9
*note MF was running Freeman's recruiting so that was a slight (very) advantage.
additional link: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/notre-dame/index.html
Link: https://www.on3.com/college/notre-dame-fighting-irish/football/2022/commits/
Replies to: Kelly vs. MF - The win % and recruiting is not as different as you think.
Your math is interesting: for first full 3, I have Kelly .718 and MF .742..
so a bit closer than what you showed for win %.
You are correct. Must have hit a wrong button. Not materially different though. Still the same point
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Yeah, I haven't reviewed the recruiting rankings you posted yet..
going by my memory, prior to the '25 class, I thought there was more difference but I compared all 3 services not just ON3.
Yes it is...because you fail to consider the changes to NIL and TP. The diff would be astounding
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I’m an Optimist- but he’s gotta become a HC - watch Kirby Smart - Players/Refs - know he’s the HC!
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100% Murph. Difference between a HC vs recruiter & figure head
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If only we had a Kirby Smart
The latest data from ncaa.org for the 2022-2023 school year, showing the 2016 cohort. GSR is Graduation Success Rate; FGR is Federal Graduation Rate.
Again, we don't play by the same rules.
Even with their talent and rules advantage it took Kirby to mold them into what they are now.
Richt couldn’t get it done with the same advantages.
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100%. Positivity is good and beneficial, but he's got to lose the self-help stuff and act with more
believable authority.