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Leonard is not a dual threat QB. Can we agree

Author: ColeyO (12461 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:24 pm on Oct 4, 2024
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on that

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He is a dual threat by definition but not a “threat” in the passing game.

Author: IrishFan82 (128 Posts - Joined: Nov 23, 2022)

Posted at 3:07 pm on Oct 5, 2024
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Author: mtthawk1 (6960 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2007)

Posted at 1:31 pm on Oct 5, 2024
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I doubt many would agree with you on this...now if you want discuss how good he actually is

Author: Chrisb (16388 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:08 am on Oct 5, 2024
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there's probably enough meat on that bone for discussion.

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Which is fine, since my opinion of a dual threat QB can differ from theirs. IMO, running on scramble

Author: ColeyO (12461 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:55 am on Oct 5, 2024
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and designed plays does not make him a dual threat, and his passing speaks for itself. The next time he runs an RPO will be the first. He works his ass off and does many good things, but that does not make him a dual threat QB

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See what you're talking about is how good he is at it..

Author: Chrisb (16388 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Oct 5, 2024
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The simple truth is that he's a high level runner who can kill you with his legs and when he's on his game (which we haven't seen a lot of yet) he has the arm to hurt you if you try to come up to take away the run.

This is at its roots what a dual threat QB is...anything beyond that is just levels of how good they are.

It's been a rocky run for Leonard so far, I'm not denying or dismissing that. However, if you look at his play in the early part of the Louisville game before he got smashed by that DL on what should have been a penalty, he was playing high level football with his feet and his arm.

That period shows you what he's capable of when he's on...imo it's on the coaches to get that out of him more consistently, or get Angeli some pt and let Leonard watch for a while until he gets his head right.


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Very reasonable and expressed assessment. I think he was coming on in the Louisville game but

Author: THEISMANCARR (17162 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 5:22 pm on Oct 5, 2024
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we went conservative and he got banged up.

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Riley is a tough matchup, I m glad we have him on our team

Author: DonMiller (3074 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 11:01 am on Oct 5, 2024
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RL seems to have improved his short passing and while hitting the longer ones...and he's still an

Author: TyroneIrish (19873 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:33 am on Oct 5, 2024
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elite running QB that has to scare DC's...he's definitely getting better...you're jumping to conclusions...and BVZ is right about the OL being more of a concern than RL. Let's keep our fingers crossed that no more injuries crop up there.

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Agreed.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17162 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 5:23 pm on Oct 5, 2024
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I agree def seeing improvements, still wish we'd develop the kids we recruited...

Author: Jerseymick (5133 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:03 am on Oct 5, 2024
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17-23, one missed layup, zero turnover worthy plays, all without consistent blocking.

Author: FinnMcCool (891 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2021)

Posted at 12:02 am on Oct 5, 2024
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No. He was very much so in Louisville game when OL blocked. He's improving noticeably....

Author: BaronVonZemo (59053 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:32 pm on Oct 4, 2024
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....but the OL has been decimated. The OL is the real issue here. The guys are good, but being pressed into service far too early and without a chance for cohesion.

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weird time to talk about that after he had his best passing game of the season

Author: kgirish (713 Posts - Joined: Sep 16, 2019)

Posted at 10:46 pm on Oct 4, 2024
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Let's wait and see.

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MF would disagree. He's going to force the issue if it's the last thing he does.

Author: ELP (9339 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:12 pm on Oct 4, 2024
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