ND’s best chance is for A&M to do damage in the SEC. It’s not inconceivable that a three loss team
Would get in before a one loss ND. The NI loss was horrible.
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I just want A&M to do damage to LSU.
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There is zero chance an 11-1 ND team is left out
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Probably right. But the committee left out a 13-0 FSU last year
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Of a FOUR team playoff
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True. But it shows the committee does not have to rely on rankings. These are all hypotheticals but
SEC teams and Big 10 teams with worse records, even if ND wins out, will be picked first. This week’s ranking show that ND is in a precarious position. It dropped after a blowout win. There are no real opportunities left fir ND to impress the committee, other than A&M doing well.
ND is always going to get a little extra credit—it’s just $s. They are least likely to be left out.
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Here we go again. . . Let’s hope they finish with only 1 loss before we worry about the playoffs.
Too many of you are drinking the kool-aid.
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well, there is this to consider:
money.
n.d. puts asses in seats and still ramps up viewership. whether that viewership is for or against n.d., they are watching intently. if money is a consideration, a one-loss n.d. is in.
No, it wouldn’t be for other teams.It was an early trap game, bad,but not lethal alone. But everyone
else is looking for a way to exclude ND.
This is a terrible recycled argument with no basis in reality. You can "conceive" what you want
But there is no way a 1-loss ND team misses the 12-team playoff with the P-5 schedule they play every year. The NIU loss would almost certainly have disqualified ND from consideration from earlier versions of the playoff, but not the 12 team version.
- No 1-loss P-5 team (ND counts) has ever finished worse that 7th in the CFP rankings. Maybe that precedent changes, but not dropping a 1-loss worse than 12.
- No 3-loss team has ever outranked a 1-loss P5 team in the CFP rankings. Again, it could happen, but not enough to drop a 1-loss ND team out of the playoff.
- The anti-ND bias/"conference circling the wagons" argument doesn't hold water, rationally or historically. ND has made the 4-team playoff twice when other teams at least had an argument, and would regularly get overseeded in BCS bowls prior to the CFP. Remember 2012? Ohio State was undefeated and didn't get to play in the championship game. Guess who did, ND.
- An 11-win ND team would have wins over SEC, ACC, and BIG teams, including 8 almost lock for bowl-eligibility teams. While they'll lack a "signature win" barring a TAMU run, they'll have a stronger SOR than all but a handful of teams by EOY.
- And last but not least, the possibility of a shitty SEC East, BIG West, or ACC Coastal team sneaking into their championship with a handful of losses, winning, and snaking an auto berth is officially over. With the giant new conferences, the 2 teams from each conference with the best record are automatically getting in. If the records are tied, then the higher ranked one is likely getting in. Remember 2009 when Alabama got to play in and win the NC without even playing in the SEC championship? Non-title game participants will make the playoffs, but there won't be enough ranked higher than ND to box the Irish out.
Is there a universe of outcomes where ND wins out and doesn't make the playoffs? The likelihood is so remote as to be in fact inconceivable to all but the most imaginative.
^^This^^
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Yet there likely will be multiple 2 loss SEC and Big 10 teams that could get in ahead of us
Especially since our schedule and SOR is not very good. You can dream that it is but we play 4 non-power 5 teams and likely will finish year with only 1 Top 25 team assuming TAM can beat LSU and Texas which is questionable. Imagine a 1 loss SEC team losing in the championship 13th game you really think we jump them? There could easily be 4 SEC teams and even 4 Big 10 teams with 0, 1 or 2 losses.
Now if we had lost to TAM that would be another story. We lost to a really shitty MAC team which you seem to total ignore while you brag about our Power 5 schedule?
There will not be 12 other teams that get in before a 1-loss ND, and nobody is ignoring NIU
Why do people keep saying a 2-loss or 3-loss team gets in over us? There aren't 2 spots. There are not 4 spots. There are 12 teams that make it. Multiple 2-loss SEC and BIG teams can be ranked higher than us, get into the playoffs, and ND still gets in.
There will be attrition at the top as teams play each other.
There will be attrition at the top as they lose games they shouldn't.
If you look at historical BCS and CFP rankings, there are barely any 2-loss P5 teams that don't make Top 12.
NIU was a bad loss. But it was a bad, EARLY loss, and if it ends up being a bad ONLY loss there is approximately 0% chance ND misses CFP.
The only 3 loss team that gets in before a 1 loss ND is a 3 loss Conf Champ.
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Do you agree however that more than one 2-loss SEC or Big 10 teams could get in before us?
So they get punished by playing an actual tough schedule?
Yeah I do agree about some 2 loss teams, just no 3 loss teams..
that's why for me the odds drop so drastically if we lose a second game..then we'd have to worry about most 2 loss teams and some 3 loss teams being over us.
So you’re saying it isn’t inconceivable. So glad you chimed in.
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It's inconceivable that a 1-loss ND team ranks worse than 12th and misses playoff.
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But we wouldn't have to rank 12th...
If we're ranked 10th or lower we are in jeopardy of potentially being left out, depending where all the Conf Champs are ranked.
It's highly unlikely but not inconceivable that in some years a 1 loss ND could be left out.
I think we are in this year with 1 loss because most of the good teams in conferences are scheduled against each other. Might not work out that way in the future though.
The megaconferences de-risked this outcome. Top 2 teams from ACC/BIG/SEC/Big12 make Champ Game
The days of weak divisions are over.
It isn’t inconceivable that a 5 loss team gets in before an undefeated #1 ranked ND...
if the 5 loss team was a Conf Champ. Doesn't mean it's worth discussing unless the discussion is about the stupidity of guaranteed playoff spots.
Glad you’re clearing up what 93 posted because he was very clear in his post.
But now that you, Chrispy the expert NDer has validated his post we can all move on.
Actually it wasn't...he didn't say anything about Conf Champs.
Now piss off shit for brains.
oh yeah, gonna just piss off because you’re the big bully on the football board.
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No, just because you are a babbling idiot.
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Yeah, tough guy.
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