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ND to open 2025 season at Miami according to reports in Florida

Author: Tongal (3497 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:59 pm on Oct 30, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

People were worried about August in College Station!?

Author: Law_Dogg (1006 Posts - Joined: Oct 3, 2014)

Posted at 8:33 am on Oct 31, 2024
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Humidity will be 110%

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At their hottest College Station is far worse than Miami...

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:48 am on Oct 31, 2024
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we just lucked out this year as there was a cold streak in Texas the week of the game.

"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Yes, average temp is 93 in College Station versus 88 in Miami

Author: WoodstockIrish (14683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:06 am on Nov 1, 2024
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But Miami’s humidity is far worse and the sun is far stronger

It is like being in the Caribbean in Miami….huge difference.


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I've lived in both areas, making it about averages is misleading way to speak to worst heat...

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:40 am on Nov 1, 2024
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Florida winter temps are typically 60-70s...maybe you get a few days in 40s.

Not gonna compare Texas to winter up north, but we get spells of 30s and sometimes into 20s for short periods in Texas during the winter. This greater low end fluctuation skews the average.

Speaking just in terms of heat, yes South Florida has higher humidity and is closer to the Sun than South Texas, but the difference isn't as huge as you're thinking. South Texas has high humidity too in the summer and the latitude difference is like 24 to 29.

From someone who has lived both places, here is the best way to describe the heat difference between South Florida and South Texas.

The difference in Sun strength is pretty insignificant (I've felt the Sun strength in South Korea, Okinawa, Houston, Galveston, Tampa, Miami, Iraq, Kuwait...all comparable latitudes, and the Sun is much stronger than an Ohio or Indiana, but not much different from each other).

It's all about humidity vs peak temps with South Florida vs South Texas. 95 in Texas is kinda hot, but 95 in South Florida feels much hotter....likewise 85 in South Florida still feels hot while 85 in Texas is dreamy. BUT, it doesn't get much hotter than 95 in South Florida and 110 in South Texas feels way hotter than 95 in South Florida.

And when talking about "hot days" a more realistic comparison is 110-115 in South Texas vs 95-98 in South Florida, and I can personally speak for which one feels worse. Last year in August it hit 96 on two days in Miami and was typically 92-95, while in College Station last year in August it was 104+ every day of the month, and hit 109+ about 8 times with a high of 113 in the month. In Fort Worth where it's not 'as' hot I've seen 100+ for like 37 days straight in the last few years and the record is 40 something straight.

Another significant distinction with Texas is with time of peak temps and duration of peak temps. Florida hits peak temp around 1-2pm while Texas peak temps are around 5-6pm. After it hits peak temp in Florida it typically falls off consistently as it approaches Sun set to the point where it doesn't feel too bad at Sun set. We don't get this grace in Texas...it slowly builds up to peak at 5-6 (from typically around 90+ at Sun rise) and then it holds pretty close to peak until after Sun set. It's not uncommon that on a 110 day in Texas it's still 100+ until 9-10 at night well after Sun set and doesn't get down to 90 or less until 4-5 am.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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As always Chris, we’ll agree to disagree

Author: WoodstockIrish (14683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:12 pm on Nov 1, 2024
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Sucks to play football in early September in both places but I hate see us make excuses for it…

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Ok, but out of curiosity what is the part you disagree with?

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:47 am on Nov 2, 2024
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Almost everything I said can be looked up and verified.

The only thing I said that could be considered opinion is that 110-115 in South Texas feels hotter than 95-98 in South Florida.

Which 1. This is something it's kind of hard to have an opinion for or against unless you've experienced both 2. I'm sure if we cared enough to look at the effect temperature increase has on heat index, this could be 'factually' proven, but I don't really care that much this morning...just more curious as to what part we need to agree to disagree on.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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I’m willing to just stop talking y about it as I clearly don’t care as much as you do

Author: WoodstockIrish (14683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:57 pm on Nov 2, 2024
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My wife is from Miami and business took me to San Antonio and Austin probably 35-40’times in last 30 years.

Just my personal perspective from having g spent considerable time in both places.

But trust me I’m not interested in arguing about it anymore.

Just like where we are ranked, how tough our schedule is and what % likelihood is for making the CFP. We disagree. Not a big deal.

I don’t come here thinking I’m going to let perfect strangers change my perspective. Often I do come to get a good laugh though. 36 years of disappointment does that to you.


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“It’s not the heat…it’s the humidity…”

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33496 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Oct 31, 2024
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^^^ This ^^^^^ 🥵

Author: Law_Dogg (1006 Posts - Joined: Oct 3, 2014)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Nov 1, 2024
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Air you can wear

Author: bill rekles (841 Posts - Joined: Sep 8, 2009)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Oct 31, 2024
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Sweet!

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25818 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:01 am on Oct 31, 2024
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A win in that dump has been a long time coming.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 2

At least we know where Mr Carr gets his first start hopefully

Author: ndphysics (3932 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 5:11 am on Oct 31, 2024
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Carr will smoke the Canes.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25818 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:54 am on Oct 31, 2024
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I may have to attend that game, even though I hate Florida.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 4

1st start for a QB, especially an away game vs good competition, rarely bodes well.

Author: NDQuebec (2118 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 1:31 pm on Oct 31, 2024
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If he's ready, then he's ready

Author: ndunabomber (6475 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:50 pm on Oct 31, 2024
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While not quite the same (it was a home game), Rick Mirer's first start was as a true sophomore against a #4 Michigan team that was absolutely loaded with NFL talent (and quite a few NFL starters). I think 20 out of 24 of those starters on that Michigan team ended up either drafted or priority free agents.

I would argue that CJ Carr is actually much more polished right now, that Rick Mirer was at the start of the 1990 season.


Thread Level: 5

Miami will have a new starter as well.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25818 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:20 pm on Oct 31, 2024
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Miami isn't that great now, despite their record.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 6

Yeah, not exactly a strong schedule

Author: ndunabomber (6475 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 pm on Oct 31, 2024
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Right now, their best wins are a close win vs Louisville (5-3), a close win vs Virginia Tech (5-3), and beatdown of Florida (4-3). They also barely beat Cal in a nail biter.

While that Florida win looks OK right now, Florida is about to get taken to the woodshed in these next 5 games. They will most likely go 1-4 for the rest of the season (losing to Georgia, Texas, LSU, and Ole Miss). They'll certainly beat Florida State in the "save your coach's career" bowl.


Thread Level: 7

He’s gone…the boosters already have the brinks truck backed up

Author: WoodstockIrish (14683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:27 am on Nov 1, 2024
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To buy him out. The only challenge is who’s gonna come that’s any better?

Thread Level: 8

$26 million is a lot

Author: ndunabomber (6475 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:36 am on Nov 1, 2024
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The last time the boosters had to cough up $13.5 million to secure the NIL deal for 2023 QB Jaden Rashada, they reneged, leaving Napier holding the bag. I'm not saying that they won't do it, though, and if they're desperate enough, it will certainly happen.

You're especially right, that they're going to have a hard time bringing in an established winning HC coach from a big time program. None of the bigger names look like they want to leave their current places (Franklin, Kiffin, etc). Even if they were looking around, I'm pretty sure their current institutions would willingly open up the purses for them.

Even the second tier guys aren't likely to leave to come to a dumpster fire (Cignetti, Campbell, etc).

Some delusional Gators' fans are insisting that Urban Meyer is coming back to restore the glory. Even if by some unholy miracle he did come back, there's no way the university's Board of Trustees would ever give him total control over the program like the last time.


Thread Level: 3

sept games call for another transfer.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16210 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:40 am on Oct 31, 2024
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How could a smart guy like Bevacqua let this happen?

Author: murph78 (1929 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:28 pm on Oct 30, 2024
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Miami, A&M and Arkansas out of the gate. no bitching about next year’s schedule

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16210 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:17 pm on Oct 30, 2024
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No good...should have done a neutral site.

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:13 pm on Oct 30, 2024
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Exactly! This will make three opening ball busters, on the road, in the last four years.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 6:44 pm on Oct 30, 2024
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2022-at Ohio St.
2024-at Texas A&M
2025-at Miami

What kind of idjits would schedule like this?

Always open up with a cupcake at home so you can start with a win and gain confidence. Then, go on the road.


Thread Level: 4

We haven't won at Miami since like '79..

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Oct 30, 2024
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there is something in the water there.

But at neutral sites or in SB we are like 13-1 in that same span...add to that those fuckers backed out this year.

If it was me I'd try to set up ND vs Miami every year in rotating neutral locations of Atlanta and either Nashville or Indianapolis


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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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That's because Brian Kelly is an asshole.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25818 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:57 am on Oct 31, 2024
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ND should have won in 2017. Kelly shit the bed.

Miami visits ND is 2026, fyi.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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"Miami visits ND is 2026" ..or do they? They've already shown they have no issue dropping us...

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:44 am on Oct 31, 2024
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at the last minute.

Also, as much as i dislike Kelly, Holtz was 0-2 "AT Miami" so this goes beyond a Kelly problem. There is something in the water there.

Miami has beaten us 8 times in the history of the series...7 of those were AT Miami.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Obviously, those Miami teams Holtz played were superior to any Kelly played.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25818 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:05 am on Oct 31, 2024
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If Miami dropped ND again, I would tell the ACC to pound sand and leave that shit conference.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 8

Agree, I just wouldn't have let them off the hook for the first offense..

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 am on Oct 31, 2024
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they dropped a neutral site game, so I'd make them honor that first before we discussed anything else.

But as I said previously, I'd try to negotiate all neutral site games with them, ala Georgia-Florida and TX-OU, but at rotating locations.


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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
Thread Level: 9

Miami doesn't deserve to play ND annually.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25818 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:50 am on Oct 31, 2024
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Let them wallow in their ACC misery, forever.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Re: Miami doesn't deserve to play ND annually. Neither does Navy...

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Nov 1, 2024
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Who does? ..I think it's good for recruiting to beat up on a Florida team each year.

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:56 am on Oct 31, 2024
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
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Well then..

Author: hipND (4138 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Oct 30, 2024
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Just fookin beat 'em.

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