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Committee says teams won't be penalized for losing conference championship game

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:57 am on Dec 1, 2024
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So, where does that leave us? SMU is in even if they lose to Clemson, which must win to get in.

Winner of Arizona State/Iowa State is in.

I'm looking right now at:

--ACC--
Clemson (assuming a win)
SMU

--B1G--
Oregon
Penn State
Ohio State
Indiana

--SEC--
Texas
Georgia
Tennessee

--BIG 12--
Arizona State or Iowa State

--MWC--
Boise State

--IND--
Notre Dame

Does this sound about right?


Replies to: Committee says teams won't be penalized for losing conference championship game


Thread Level: 2

There is no way Clemson should get in if they lose. Its a joke they even

Author: ndphysics (3931 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 11:32 am on Dec 1, 2024
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Have a chance if they win.

Thread Level: 3

Exactly, I would be pissed.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

Curious, how did they word that?

Author: NDNEIL (7423 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:14 am on Dec 1, 2024
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Is it an official criteria or just something someone said? I’ve heard people say it before but wondering how “official” that will be.

Thread Level: 3

Exact wording "We will not ove⁰rly punish teams for losing in a Conference Championship game".

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:20 am on Dec 1, 2024
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"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
Thread Level: 4

Interesting. So they did leave themselves an out.

Author: NDNEIL (7423 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:12 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Thread Level: 5

Yeah, the interpretation I've heard is..

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:22 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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that if a team was ranked high enough to be in the playoffs before the CCG, they wouldn't get knocked out for losing it and likewise if a team was in line to host a playoff game that wouldn't be taken away from losing a CCG.

"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis
Thread Level: 3

They mentioned it on College Gameday a while back

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:09 am on Dec 1, 2024
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In the case of Arizona State/Iowa State, for example, I would say neither team is in at this point. Texas and Georgia, though, obviously are. The game can affect seeding from what I've been reading.

Thread Level: 2

But they will. The money grab conference championships make zero sense w/ 12 team playoff.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:06 am on Dec 1, 2024
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For starters, an extra game increases risk of injury to key players, above and beyond having no opportunity to rest.

It is also doubtful the loser of a conference championship will maintain whatever seeding they currently hold today, particularly if they lose in decisive fashion.

Sure, nice to have “action” next weekend, but the committee is not turning a blind eye to these games. If so, announce the 12 teams and seeding today.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 3

Correct - get rid of them and the ND penalty

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8035 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:18 am on Dec 1, 2024
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The genius of Savvy Jack in action.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 3

Yes, the conference championship game will affect their seeding but not their participation

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:44 am on Dec 1, 2024
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Unless they have to win to get in, as Clemson and ASU/Iowa State have to do.

Thread Level: 4

It needs to end. Makes no sense other than SEC/Big trying to stack the playoffs.

Author: LanceManion (7939 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:57 am on Dec 1, 2024
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And it’s arguably backfiring.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 4

Rewarding the winner is more equitable than punishing the loser.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 am on Dec 1, 2024
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 5

But that may punish a team ‘already in’ if a team outside wins a conference championship

Author: ndinga (88 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 10:15 am on Dec 1, 2024
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For example, based on last weeks rankings, Clemson loosing and Alabama winning should have Ala in the playoffs as of now. Yet, if Clemson wins, either some team (?smu ? Ala or other team currently in gets the boot)

Now don’t get me wrong I despise Ala and if they were permanently banned it would be A OK with me.


Thread Level: 6

I think there's some room for fluidity in these cases

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:12 am on Dec 1, 2024
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I'm sure the committee is going to keep SMU in if they lose, for example. In the case of Alabama, I would consider them a consolation pick if Clemson wins.

Thread Level: 6

I say if you play the game, feel the consequences

Author: ndinga (88 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 10:18 am on Dec 1, 2024
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They all play some crap game or two during the year against a directional podunk school that shouldn’t really count anyway….esp the sec schools.

Thread Level: 7

The flipside is that Notre Dame would not have finished 11-1 playing a conference schedule.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:32 am on Dec 1, 2024
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SEC, Big 12, Big 10 schedules are not a walk in the park.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 8

Thank you, we actually agree on something. Not sure that has ever happened before

Author: WoodstockIrish (14683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:31 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Thread Level: 8

That depends

Author: ndinga (88 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 10:39 am on Dec 1, 2024
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…..if they played in the ACC this year they may have gone undefeated.

(Assuming they didn’t play the powerhouse from NIU)


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