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Son sat with "influential" OSU person

Author: Girard (323 Posts - Joined: Apr 15, 2011)

Posted at 10:56 am on Jan 21, 2025
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OSU's 2 top receivers are getting 1 mil this year. School is constantly talking to agents.
In his heart this all bothers him. "the big traditional booster schools" like Texas/USC/OSU/UM/Oregon(Nike) will rule.
He said USC has already committed 30 million to its 2025 roster.
Glad we have an NCAA to make sure kids David Rivers and Donald Royal have pizza money.
Heck, I have a pair of Donald Royal's PONY sneakers that Digger loved. My son bought them as he came door to door in the dorm. The kid needed $20....1986 I think it was.


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Thread Level: 2

OSU is the only school that reported their NIL budget

Author: andrewgr (4 Posts - Joined: Oct 29, 2007)

Posted at 1:07 pm on Jan 22, 2025
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OSU has become the poster boy for NIL spending because their AD (for whatever reason-- it seems foolish in retrospect) disclosed their NIL budget. No other school (to the best of my knowledge) has done the same.

So the truth is we have no way of knowing if Ohio State spent the most money on NIL. I've seen wildly varying estimates, placing them anywhere from 1st to 11th. Most estimates seem to agree that they're at the very least behind Texas, and a lot of estimates have them behind Oregon as well.

One number that all Universities, even private ones like Notre Dame, need to report is their total football budget. Ohio State spent the fourth most on their football budget, with $72.4M. Notre Dame was fifth, with $71.9M.

I'm sad that between the portal and NIL, almost everything that made college football special seems to have disappeared. I will say that, at least this year, Ohio State used their NIL money almost exclusively to retain players they had recruited out of high school. The got Will Howard in the portal, but he wasn't expensive and there wasn't a bidding war for his services. They got Judkins, who was pretty much the same. The high-profile player the got was Caleb Downs, but his final two coming out of high school were Ohio State and Alabama, and he was part of a large number of players that left 'Bama when Saban retired, so it doesn't seem at all far fetched to hypothesize that he would have wound up at OSU even if the NIL didn't exist. This doesn't mean that spending all that money retaining their players wasn't a huge advantage; just that it doesn't feel as mercenary as it would if they had gone out and bought a 5* QB and 2 5* linemen and four or five other 4* players, which is something I can absolutely imagine happening in the not too distant future-- probably by Texas or Texas A&M, I would imagine, as I don't think anybody can compete with that oil money combined with that fanaticism.


Thread Level: 2

It seems like some of the $20 million that ND made off this CFP could go towards NIL

Author: GrandRapidsDomer (621 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:17 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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If Notre Dame does not step up in regards to NIL like the other big schools, they will not be able to keep up. They now just made a massive paycheck, and need to put it to work

Thread Level: 3

ND has been ripping off its fans for 3 decades now...

Author: NDinKentucky (856 Posts - Joined: Dec 11, 2011)

Posted at 2:21 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

NIL is not allowed directly from the school, but it could pay coaches and money is fungible.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58842 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:27 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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agreed, but I keep reading schools are involved, why?

Author: cubsfanin16 (5480 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 2:39 pm on Jan 24, 2025
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NCAA, Power 5 agree to deal that will let schools pay players (2025 - 2026 academic year)

Author: SteveM (2197 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2011)

Posted at 1:41 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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Link: NCAA, Power 5 agree to deal that will let schools pay players

Thread Level: 5

Well there you go - though recent Title IX ruling needs to be fixed.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58842 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:18 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Good point

Author: whatsamataU (25115 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:52 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

Helps to have 50,000 students. BUT ND just made a ton of money so there’s that.

Author: LanceManion (7648 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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I'm not convinced a big alumni base matters that much, at least for buying championships

Author: andrewgr (4 Posts - Joined: Oct 29, 2007)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Jan 22, 2025
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I saw Colin Cowherd make this point, about the alumni base funding NIL deals, but I think his take is just wrong. He claimed that the Big10 had a big NIL advantage, but according to almost all of the estimates I've seen, the SEC had more schools in the top 10 NIL spends than the Big10 did. IMHO, a single wealthy oil baron is going to donate more to Texas or Texas A&M than all the alumni of any one school combined. No amount of lawyers and engineers and mid-level managers are going to contribute as much as Phil Knight. I think Cowherd's take shows his age; he hasn't adjusted to how much the distribution of wealth has changed in the United States in the last 15 years.

I guess I would be willing to concede that a large alumni base provides a higher floor-- a traditional Midwest Big10 school is probably always going to start with enough money to be at least average. But in terms of buying a championship, I'd rather have a T. Boone Pickens or Phil Knight. This is borne out by the list of top 10 donation totals to athletic departments, which has 7 SEC schools in the top 10, Oklahoma State because of Pickens, and Oregon at #1 because of Phil Knight: https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-sports-top-donors-ranking-the-most-generous-athletics-boosters-214986422/#2225319


Thread Level: 3

I thought OSU, Michigan, ASU, Texas had over 80K students (some over 100K)

Author: KWIRISH (1962 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:08 pm on Jan 21, 2025
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